close all the curtains stay on the Flor we are the monsters holding you still we are the GS up the hill the question is God on your side we’ll be together where the time we are the monster there’s no place to
ride under your bed we hide in the we are the monst call me upon we are the monster holding the sun oo ooh
o every morning for 3 months Lissa Rodriguez woke up to a new day opening the blinds looking out to see the sun had risen again going about her morning routine getting dressed waking up her children and going about her day with it bringing Second Chances a new start as every new day does for all of us every evening for 3 months Lissa would put her children to bed make her way to her bedroom close the blinds turn off the light and crawl into bed herself eventually drifting off to sleep I wonder what she dreamt about those 3
months I wonder if she dreamt about Jordan who is Jordan you ask Jordan is Lissa’s 5-year-old son you see Jordan’s broken and starved little body was buried in Lissa’s backyard and Lissa knew it because she helped put him there Lissa Rodriguez’s life has been marked by upheaval and turmoil Lissa along with her siblings were victims of generational trauma and violence they endured horrific and instability which ultimately led to them being separated into the foster care system at some point Lissa was adopted but being
adopted did not mean rainbows and butterflies for her in fact she lodged her own complaints of against her adoptive parents in 1998 which were ultimately dismissed Lissa acted out repeatedly ran away and at the age of 14 she became pregnant she went through with the pregnancy and gave birth to her first of many children a son named Angel Alvarez fast forward to 2007 her adoptive mother Emma Roos was brutally stabbed to death by her boyfriend according to Lissa’s sister Anna their adoptive mother struggled with addiction
and her boyfriend had a violent past apparently killing a previous girlfriend Emma who had a total of 12 children dated this guy anyway knowing of his past which caught up with her when he murdered her as she was leaving a hair salon he stabbed her numerous times she ended up staggering into a nearby Walgreens begging for help but died 4 hours later at the hospital as was her childhood Lissa’s adult life was anything but stable she would be in and out of relationships giving birth almost every every year ending up with a total
of 10 children almost all of them having different fathers 18 complaints of child neglect or abuse were reported against her dating back to 1999 right after she gave birth to her first son Angel 13 of those complaints led to formal investigations she has been connected to incidents of assault domestic violence and a missing person’s case Lissa was an absolute train wreck living in disgust and squalor her homes were filthy loaded with rodents and infested with bugs how she had custody of any of her children is
unbelievable but as I came to find out Lissa was scheming with a corrupt social worker that’s why she still had some of her children that scheming would lead to one of the most horrific child murders in Ohio bio history and would blow the lid off the filth and disgust going on Behind the Walls of this Horror House on West 80th Street in Cleveland Jordan Rodriguez was born November 5th 2012 in Cleveland Ohio to Lissa Rodriguez not much is known about his father he apparently had no involvement in Jordan’s life Jordan was born 26 weeks
premature and missing a kidney but this little guy was a fighter and against the odds he was able to leave the hospital it was later found Jordan was mute he could not speak he could not cry the thought of what he went through in silence is almost too much for me little Jordan wanted to live he deserved to unfortunately he was born into absolute chaos and horrific living conditions devoid of love and safety in all of my videos I think it’s important to take a minute and pay tribute to the littlest victims I’m usually able to find photos
and sometimes videos of the child where I try to bring them to life and honor them for precious Jordan I could only find three photos it brings tears to my eyes in today’s Society with so much technology and the fact that Lissa had a Facebook page I wasn’t able to find any more photos of Jordan but he is important to me just as any other victim I cover so I decided to write him this poem and honor him that way sweet Jordan you lived your life in silence never able to cry I can’t imagine the terror and sorrow I just
don’t understand why I wish I could have saved you I wish you could have felt love but I know you’re free now sweet boy in the beautiful skies above your time here was horrific you did not have a voice so I want to tell your story since you were never given the choice we hear you Jordan will be your voice and let them not forget you mattered deserved better and Justice you will get
Christopher Rodriguez was another one of lorissa’s many living boyfriends although they have the same last name they were not married there is not a lot of information available on Christopher but from what I could find he was a loser without a job a huge temper and a deadbeat dad he had other children and was ordered to pay child support but wasn’t supporting his children in any way but this was a night and shining armor to Lissa she thought it was a great idea to invite this dirt bag into her home and around her children Lissa’s
children were already suffering living with her as their mother then she decides things must not be bad enough why don’t I bring in Satan himself it’s not clear how long Christopher was living with Lissa and her children but during that time he was abusive to her and her children like we see in so many cases with cier there was one child that was singled out one child that got the worst of it that child was little Jordan Jordan who fought so hard as a baby to live Jordan who had no voice one kidney and with special needs that is
who this Coward of a man a real tough guy thought he would take his wrath out on Lissa went right along with it she never protected Jordan she wasn’t doing anything to stop it prior to Christopher coming into the picture picture family members State Jordan at least looked healthy I’m sure living with Lissa he was suffering mentally and emotionally but prior to Christopher’s arrival he at least physically looked well Christopher and Lissa starved Jordan locked him in the closet Christopher would beat Jordan and shove a sock in his mouth this
horrific treatment would go on and on until Jordan’s little body could not take it any longer and and he passed away Christopher and Lissa put mothballs in his mouth wrapped a diaper around his head shoved his broken body in bags and buried him in the backyard like a dog buries a bone Christopher would end up getting arrested not for what happened to Jordan but for not paying child support he ended up in jail but him and Lissa kept their romance going and Lissa would make sure he had money and care packages while he was in prison yep you heard
that right while precious Jordan lay decomposing in her backyard She Was preparing care packages for her precious Christopher Western Union H some money calls are subject to recording and may be monitored you may start your conversation now hello I love you I got an idea I don’t know if it’ll work though um there car caller got a debit card or a credit card or anything I think so she did it before cuz I was wondering if you could call her and see if you Western Union her some money you know what I mean and
then her put the money on my books if they got your credit card number already it’ll be her credit card number you know what I mean so it’s not that it’s the account number what you mean yeah that’s what I’m saying but if you wire her the number I mean wire her the money and she uses her own card and account number do you think it’ll work but she’ll be using the same phone number as mine and which mine is the same phone number on my account no no no no what I’m saying bab remember how you put the money on my books and I bought the $5 phone
cards that’s what I’m saying if you have her put the money on my account using her credit card or debit card then all I got to do is go to the kiosk machine and buy the $5 phone times and it’ll be $21 a minute for us you see that’s I don’t know I could see cuz I was just thinking about that while I was you know connecting us I was like wait a minute they got B’s account number and her phone number so they’re going to block it you know but if I if you have K car put the money on my account with her account number then
I’ll be able to go buy the phone time from the K and it’ll be a lot trth will have a lot more money to talk to each other I can see what she says um you know I saw you right when you got into the court hello this is a free call from I love you my sexy soulmate an inmate at Madina County Jail this call is subject to recording and monitor ing to accept this free call press one to refuse this pre call press two thank you for using secur us you may start the conversation now beautiful just want to tell you I love you
gorgeous I love you you okay why would you do that when you see I’m clean you okay oh no Bubba don’t want to help do nothing well tell him he ain’t going a car car that’s exactly why going nowhere tell him exactly what I just said because me and Mar was just telling him before you call and we said wait till Dad call and next you know he you go call him tell him I said get up if he wants to go to car cars and clean now to car cars you better get up and clean T she’s being lazy like normal not doing nothing Mar making some ramen noodles
for everybody I took down the curtains that are in the playroom and I you know the shower the black and white shower curtain thingy yeah put it I put that one towards the outside of the the big window I put that one there and then I put some other flower one that I had found in the closet upstairs on the side window okay you get the crack ones out of there and I’m throwing those was away okay but I was wiping down the walls and stuff I just wanted to go and tell you I love you and get ready to lock us down till
1:00 and uh I’ll chirp you because I’m trying to save the rest of this for later the night so I can talk to you I got $5 left on the kiosk you know what I mean I at least want to save like two bucks for tomorrow morning to talk to you too okay I just wanted to hear my wife’s voice and let you know like I’m always thinking about you guys I miss you about I can’t wait till you get your letter either tomorrow or Tuesday so you can see the tattoo I’m gonna get and that’s going right over my heart oh yeah M I told you I’m covering
everything up my wife and my kids is going to be the only thing on my body yeah than here but the one that’s on my heart right now that’s getting covered up by the one that I just sent you okay I love you my gorgeous soulmate I love you too thank you for everything to than me that’s part of be I love you and you ain’t never got to worry about me going anywhere cheating on you wanting anybody else like you’re you’re all I want beautiful I promise you you hear me you feel the same way yes I do I know I love you love you tell the kids they ain’t
listening tell them I’m hearing everything so when I get home they better not be crying for his ass whooping why are you spraying bleach dumbass who was it right you’re not supposed to touch the damn bleach M move I’m about to show you leave you alone who said that out of him right now I just did talking about leave you alone wait till I get home I swear to God that little boy will be a whole different little kid when I get home watch leave her alone I don’t want you next to t you leave her alone him for me right now I need my
heavy hand dad say he needed heavy hand Mar smack booo right he tell both of us when when we s disappoint leave me alone yeah we’ll see we’ll see turn smack him right mouth he said don’t hit me tell her I said smack him right mouth hard as right now I wonder why cuz you said oh where is M she went to the bathroom oh I think she went upstairs I love you good boy dad said good boy that’s what you supposed to do now tell him go punch him right now for screaming right now every time boo boo screams I want him to punch
him every time boo boo screams I want Bubba knock him out yeah said every time boo boo scream like that he wants you to knock him out this time tell Bubba it’s time for him to show boo boo he’s big brother at some point some of Lissa’s family started asking questions about Jordan’s whereabouts Lissa would say he was with an aunt or Jordan’s father in Texas what blew this case wide open is a phone call from Pakistan of all places hi man um I’m calling from overseas but I got it’s kind of a is a I guess I need to talk to like a detective
or somebody or I don’t know if you can basically it’s kind of messed up the whole situation but my brother told me something and I just can’t sleep at night as far as you know what it what what I don’t I don’t know I I just kind of feel like I I need to something for concerning your brother yeah just I know I know it sounds crazy no what is where he um he lives off of Detroit I don’t know his direct address um basically um he told me that something happened with one of the kids and um they didn’t call the cops and
basically he buried him and his girlfriend buried a kid in the backyard now mind you my brother is known to lie a lot so I kind of like blew it off and I was like hey man true it’s not his kid it’s one of her kids he what he told me was he came home um his girlfriend called him he he rushed home and then like I think the little boy was like four or five now mind you I’ve only seen these kids like one time so I couldn’t tell you who they are what it is about but he told me that um that uh the boy was unresponsive and
I was like okay he’s like well this kid had a you know a lot of problems like he had like one lung and one kidney and I I don’t even know if that part is true because I don’t know these kids because he’s only been with this girl maybe two years and I’ve been like overseas the whole time so I I only really met her like maybe once or twice in my life what is your brother’s address that’s the thing I don’t know his address I can give you his name though it’s Christopher Rodriguez and I think you can pull it up that way
C Christopher with the K or C oh would a c see does any story just sound crazy though it sounds absolutely insane right can you spell Rodriguez it’s a common spelling r o d r i g u e z okay you don’t what is do you know it’s date of birth yeah it’s 1128 no no I’m sorry it’s not 112 I’m about to keep you my birthday his it should be 8181 but sometimes it’s 81281 so it’s one of the two because basically I know it is 812 but I know his birth certificate at one point say 811 so I don’t know which one okay do you know
goes do you know his girlfriend’s name yeah his girlfriend’s name is Lissa Rodriguez we’re not married she just has last name is and her name is l a r I think I think it’s l a r r i s i SSA or it’s l a r i SS a now mind you right now he’s actually locked up I think in Madina County for child support so he’s already he’s already um now mind you I don’t even know if this is true I really don’t I just know he told me I couldn’t sleep and I was just like yo you need to you call to happen uh he didn’t he didn’t really
give me exact time frame he just made it seem like it was like months ago and that’s why I was like and that’s why I was really mad cuz I was like I thought he kind of told me like you know within a day or so when I was like wait you mean this is month ago and he was like yeah man I was like I was like why would what on Earth would make you not call the cops or or call he tell that when was it that he told you that when did he tell you that um he told me right before he went in jail I don’t know if that was
a couple weeks ago whatever it was whenever he got locked up there when he told me but I didn’t mind you I I I didn’t really believe him I was like there’s no way this is true and then he got locked up the next day so I could never really confirm whether or not what he told me was either a lie or it was true but I don’t know I just kind of felt like it needs at least to be looked into because I don’t I don’t I really don’t feel he’s at fault and maybe I’m being biased because that’s my brother because what kind of mother would bury
her kid in the backyard I don’t know what kind of mother would do that I don’t want anybody to possibly turn them in I mean things like that happened before I really really do appreciate your call and you standing up for what what’s oh man it’s it just cuz you know it just it’s just a sad situation because I’m like I know and he was crying when he told me and that’s what made me kind of believe sincerity but I was never able to verify directly but I know I couldn’t sleep at night and I was like man you know what and then when I
told this person I was like hey you what do you think they’re like I’m going to call the cops I’m like well man I was like I tell him like hey I’m getting ready to come back maybe within I can literally be in Cleveland maybe on Wednesday if if everything goes well and everything and I was going to just do it in person but I was like I’m I’m not going to have that happen and not come for me and I even I even told him too like before he went to you know he finally got locked up I said hey man hearing the story from you directly he’s
like I can take a li tester test I know I didn’t hurt that kid blah blah blah he’s like I can I can prove that that’s a fact is when I came home the kid was already dead and I was like are you serious right now and then like the phone hung up and then he had to go to court and then they they violated his probation for something I don’t know and then he end up going to go in jail for I think 90 days child we’re going to have the police check it out okay and they okay um tried to and he told me all he told me was
that the kid was buried in the backyard now that’s all I know and she had so many back yeah right in his backyard and that’s all he say like we buried him in the backyard but the kid in question I don’t know what his name is but I guess he has a lot of problems so I guess the only way to really figure it out is figure out how many kids she actually has and then figure out which one’s missing because what he did tell me that made me kind of believe his story was he said he told him and his girlfriend told um the older kid that he was
staying with his with her sister who also has a special needs kid and that way they don’t question it you see what I’m saying like this and I was like okay so they they think that they may think that he’s with her sister right exactly so the older kids might actually think hey this you know okay so they might not question things police then went to Lissa’s home to investigate the claims from Christopher’s brother police eventually got a warrant to search the backyard and eventually found found little Jordan it
was determined that when Jordan died he weighed only 15 lb he was 5 years old he also had some broken bones so it was obvious CA had taken place Lissa was arrested and charged with Jordan’s death Christopher was already in jail but he was charged as well Lissa’s family gave an emotional interview sharing their feelings on Lissa and what happened to Jordan and if I get the option to put her down forever that’s what I’m going to do again if a dogs buys a person dog gets pussed to sleep for biting some la oh don’t have
for biting somebody well yeah telling me that you got people out here killing the kids the kids do whatever to the kids and some of them like guy rest a little girl gets five years you know a guy gets caught with some weed getting 18 years so I mean system is messed up the way that I I I think that the way they should do it is if you put a dog to sleep for biting somebody why would we not put somebody for killing a kid not only killing a kid but taking putting this kid yeah putting K remains somewhere else be
there looking at your window anint that that kid is there and not say nothing I think she keep the same TR as the dogs do there’s no justice for kids I mean the kids can’t speak out that’s a kid Man kids are going to play kids are going to get dirty that’s what kids do I know I did when I was a kid you know what I’m say I’m so so sorry like I’m so so sorry that you ended up with a mother like her you leave them in the county they’ll give P separate thing is going to happen to them what happen same thing that
happen to you guys is going to happen to them I don’t know I would like to keep them together if we could like I said me and Michelle going to try our best whatever we can you know I got a big home here you know they can come here half can come here half can go M or we work something now I just Lisa please I’m begging you please I have no words for her call me I will go and put money on my phone for you to call collect let me know where the rest of his he is confi in me I’m not going to be any M than what I am it’s already done and dead I just
want to give him the proper burial burial respect man the that he deserves that’s it I will get him cremated and he could be with the family that actually loves loves him please say something please stop lying already you’re supposed to help your kids not hurt them I don’t have work for her I can’t even de with her I had all of them at one time every time she po a baby out they all came to my house and stayed with me four days every time is she pregnant now well that’s what she said that’s what we I if she says it it’s true she had never
thought about that one probably is though cuz she gets pregnant every year yeah but that’s not counting the miscarriages she had that’s not counting the DNC she had yeah the abortions so she would have a lot more a lot more I just want you to think about what your door man you you literally followed mom’s footsteps identical to her identical I wish you would you could have let a man in that would have killed you and all your babies not not I mean she I think she would have been next that I would have killed her yeah but
it’s going to be an ongoing investigation because they want all the body parts and I just want to say actually cremate mil honestly the blame here is cdfs like if you would went to the home and the kids go in try to would been our we all would SC know what I’m saying even if we trying to save the kids blame for I went over there and he wouldn’t let me in and I said I’m her sister I went with bags for the kids and he wouldn’t let me in the house but me was a whole different story he a tough guy tough guy but he would not come to
the freaking door I had to get on ARA’s face for him to come to the door once he came to the door I was able to reach him and grab that man that man and my sister that man put a sock in my nephew’s mouth because I never seen my sister discipline her kids like that ever When I Say Never she ain’t never had a sock in that little boy’s mouth that’s him and I know it’s you and I know you chop the body up and know I’m going to find your sorry good I can’t had nobody protect him no innocent and he couldn’t even speak at that and he
had no voice no it’s the sad part that’s and Child Services are supposed to be protecting our kids they’re supposed to be the voices they’re supposed to be the on says oh hey you can’t speak sign language where hurts where show me what do you where’s your boo boo they know boo boo they was straight tell you too he point that’s what I’m saying when I call kids first time on her I told the worker to take Jordan into a room and I told the worker that she he couldn’t talk to to pinpoint the body now if they did that or not I don’t know I don’t
think they even did but I like I said if they would have went there all these times like it says recently they would have realized that Jordan was not there and they would have asked for an address and a phone number and all that in Texas where this supposed possibly out is when you know damn well that everyone knows that there ain’t no family for him yeah she knew how do you not know your child is missing how do you not file a report how do you go to bed knowing what happened to your child that you lay down five kids every night but
this one you’re not laying down how do you not know how do you not shed a tear how how is that possible she looks crazy on her picture she doesn’t she look like it don’t look she doesn’t look normal from all of the reports I read it was said that Jordan was not I found it interesting that the family States in this interview he was in pieces and they wanted to know where the other pieces were so they could give Jordan a proper burial that was so hard to listen to the thought of them trying to find all of him it really messed me up this was
early on in the investigation so it’s possible they did not have all of the correct information on the condition of Jordan’s body but I HED they were able to put Jordan to rest as he so rightly deserved it was also disturbing hearing them talk about Lissa just popping out baby after baby with no regard to the life she would be able to provide for them I personally think her children were a means to get money from the state for her nothing more Lissa was brought in to speak with investigators in regards to Jordan’s death here are some
recordings of that interrogation and if you want to continue this conversation later today I’m happy to do that if you want me to pull you back over here I’m happy to do that um I I feel for where you’re at because no woman should ever have to bury their child and I think you did the best you could with what you had but that guy was using you and that’s why I told my sisters too I said if if I ever get up out of here I’m not going back my sister says that they would help me get back on my feet do what I have to
do cuz I was always always had my own always had my kids my kids have never been a day without me this is my first Christmas without my kids at the end of the day and and and I I understand how you feel about if I ever get up out of here I don’t know what they’re going to charge you with my suspicion is it’s going to be murder B that’s my susp what gets me is he’s not going to get charged for anything oh now that’s not going to be true and um it that’s not going to be true and what is murder being it it’s a um it’s causing the death of another
without a plan to actually do it and how much time what am I really looking at can you tell me I can’t or just like a kind of like um I would say uh honestly I would say probably double digits what’s that at least in the neighborhood of a double digit now I don’t know what happens later on down the line and I’m not in charge of that I can only tell you that I had one other scenario that was very similar to this and that particular female is doing eight years but I would s submit this to you were it me in your shoes I would be
thankful that my children are in homes where the adults can take care of them this is not going to prohibit you from having conversation with your children this is not going to prohibit you from having a place in your children’s life you will still have communication with them and you have a unique opportunity here it doesn’t matter what you do to your children they will always love you the important thing here is that you tell the truth all the truth even the truth as they see it ability for your side of the stream meaning if I drank if
I doped if I didn’t keep house if I didn’t put sheets on your bed if I didn’t feed you if I was overwhelmed if I didn’t do my part to take care of you then I own that and no just like I take the responsibility I didn’t take them to the doctor that was my fault I mean I didn’t call the ambulance when he needed it that was my fault I also had part in putting him there because I just had a baby so you know and I’m feeling my depressed I I diagnosed with PTSD you know and probably postpartum and you know I didn’t know what to do you know I
just got scared and I just was like you know and I wasn’t ready to let Jordan go because I’ve been through so much with Jordan you know by myself even before I got with Chris I was taking him to the doctor I was I mean it was a lot but I was working on getting there cuz my work I mean my uh social I mean social worker my counselor has a premise so she was working with me on some things that I could do with Jordan well let me ask you this in um I don’t know who Patrick St is my understanding from you is it this was a
one time liaison with him or a couple of time liaison with him yeah and then I got pregnant and here comes Jordan and I didn’t want nothing to do with him he didn’t want nothing to do with me okay so I told him I S him back and I told him you need to go to Texas back home where you know where you are so but my question to you is not to cut you off and I know you need to talk about this stuff to get it out the law says that he is he has a right to Jordan because he’s the father what that he never comes forward or we don’t find him he’s not
gonna come he’s not then whom would you want to have Jordan Michelle my sister and I talked to her last night Michelle or Anna Michelle okay because she’s more responsible Michelle’s more responsible she’s more she’s the oldest so in the absence of Patrick St you would want her to have Jordan’s remains yes and to to follow through with what she wanted to do which was a cremation yes and to divide the the remains between his siblings I think that would be best I talked to her yesterday and I told her I was going to let you know that you know
because we all agree he’s never been there he never want to no part of Jordan and even on Facebook I could even show you from old messages you know I sent him pictures of when he was in the NICU I said I told him when he was born I didn’t I didn’t have to tell him you know those are things that even I try to connect with his sister I didn’t get nothing from well what if they come back and they do want them then what I doubt it I mean but if they do then there’s nothing we can do the problems being Jordan had an old left
wrist fracture his left wrist was broken at some point and it was healed it healed on its own how that’s something you need to tell us Jordan also has three fractured left ribs that healed on their own and a fractured right rib that healed on its own and these are all injuries that were healing on their own without medical help which means he was in a lot of pain for a very long time and you’re not being honest about what was happening to this kid see when what happened I mean I personally didn’t but I was scared
myself okay scared of I think talking to my sister yesterday actually opened up my eyes a little bit and made me realize I should not be the only one taking full blame for this I never put my hands on my kids you can ask any of them and a lot of people used to tell me maybe that’s why sometimes your kids don’t listen you know sometimes I need to be more rough on but that’s just not in me to say here in I don’t want to be that mother either I just don’t want to be that mother either right I don’t I mean I was like that
when I was little I can’t be that type of mom to sit there and expect you okay my kid may do something wrong but I see other discipline you know timeouts you know corner you know bedroom you know some sometimes my help me girl worker even seen it herself you know no matter how bad my little ones connect up I never had that in me to hit my kids but I think I was just so scared because I used to get my ass beat by Chris just because I defended my kids my daughter my oldest daughter my oldest son can tell you my older son had to
pull a knife on him because he put his hands on me the way he did how long were you and Chris together about two years okay and he was living with you from day one yeah all right our understanding is that you were dating someone else who moved out and you met Chris online I was with Jake okay but Jake wasn’t in the house for more than two weeks since when he left and then Chris came in right and you met him online yes if he can hit on me and he can discipline my other kids but he wouldn’t discipline him like he did
Jordan how did how does he discipline Jordan it was just different I mean as far as you know how you said the sock in the mouth none of my kids got the sock in the mouth only Jordan and I used to sit there and tell them don’t do that you know I used to get yelled at my kids all can tell you I defended all my kids and that’s where a lot of me and his arguments came in because I did defend my kids and that’s where he would put his hands on me he even put a sack in my mouth when I tried to yell for help I felt like I was stuck and every time
something like that would happen he would always bring up and make me feel like guilty like I was the one who did that to Jordan and I didn’t hurt Jordan well so what let me just say this we’ve seen pictures up until Christopher Rodriguez comes in the picture he’s a healthy was healthy he was healthy however for whatever reason he focused on that child I don’t know what that reason was if and he tried to keep everybody away from me I couldn’t have friends I couldn’t have family I couldn’t have nobody I may have missed this did he
actually physically Abus him that you seen a few times that I’ve seen yes okay and what what did he do he would smack him he would I mean I didn’t me personally didn’t see him anything I didn’t you know I didn’t wasn’t around or if I went to the store if I you know went out with my kids or something you won’t see a fracture I didn’t that’s why it shocked me because a compound fracture right because I my son had a fracture when he jumped off the uh bicycle he was on the bike with my older son so I know you know like I
took him to the hospital for that fracture like but a rib fracture but that but see I wish I would you know it was just like Jordan trying to tell tell me something when I told you that he when he finally took his last breath it was like he was mad you know like I seen in his face like he just wanted to tell me something but I just didn’t know what that something was and with him being spe speechless I mean I couldn’t understand what it was but I could tell it was just something so mad you know like angry and I thought he you know like he
was trying to cuss me out or something but I took it as he was just trying to tell me Mom I love you I got to go you know but in my heart something told me that he had something to do with this because every time after this happened I just hated him I hated everything I hated I just couldn’t stand to be around him did you ever ask him to believe I did and he told me that if I was to call the cops that he had the gas in his name that they would tell me that he resides there that he can’t leave I was I just wish I was with
Jordan and he said what did you say I said I wish I was with Jordan I wish I could take Jordan’s place for him you know that’s and he was just like you know cuz he didn’t like the fact that that I used to bring him Jordan oh you know you don’t need nobody hearing you know what happened and this and this and that he would get pissed off what do you think he did to Jordan I think that morning technically some I mean something had to happen I don’t know what it could have been something had to happen because Jordan wouldn’t just collapse like
that you know I don’t know if maybe he might have pushed him shoved them punched could have even punched him does he punch who knows no I’ve never seen them but I mean if you’re talking about any type of fractures I mean who’s to say there’s a big difference between punching a child in the face where you’re going to see The Mark or punching a child I’m going to interview the other one now okay punching a child in the rib cage and no one sees that so what I’m saying to you is this guy’s a street dude he knows how to hit right he knows
how to hit somebody in soft places with a hard object and not leave a mark so what did he put a kidney shot on that boy you see what I’m saying yeah who who’s to say what that what that he was pissed off at that kid for whatever reason puts a kidney shot on the good kidney and it’s l shut down yeah so now we could be very likely leaning toward a situation where Jordan was beaten to death based upon all these premortem injuries that are in different stages of healing and something told me I don’t know what it was it’s just a
feeling that he had something to do with this because I not once ever and as you’ve seen for yourself pictures and everything I’ve always posted my kids were always healthy I’ve always took care of my kids I never with my kids everybody used to tell me some even even the uh the officer at the house as you can he’s like maybe maybe you need a spanking you know and that’s not in me to do that you know when I was little I got hit with extension cords I got hit with boards I got hit I had a Neil on rice on a carpet those are and I told
myself those are things I never want my kids to go through nothing I don’t want to compel my child through fear and I remember he always used to telling me well you need to discipline your kids and this and this and that and it’s just like I’m doing my best to discipline my kids what is his definition of discipline his I guess is more like spank and I don’t know what he considers discipline did you see him put the sock in Jordan’s mouth and put him in a one time I did yes and I didn’t like it I didn’t did he make Jordan sit in the
closet not that I know of not that I know but it can’t no say when I step out or you know something like that but as far as the closet goes I know my kids play in the closet that’s all I know you know my kids love to sit there and hang on the little bar thingy and one time I caught my little one just sitting on the shelf up there and I’m like what are you guys doing you know typical kids you know but as far as that I don’t know but my children didn’t deserve any of this you know like I’m screaming and you sitting there choking me let me ask you
this um is he what you described to me about Jordan losing weight in his arms while developing a pot belly that’s malnutrition see you can even when you talk to my daughter that’s why I thought something was wrong going on with this kidney okay but because he was losing the weight he was doing you know but I’m not saying you did this my question is is that some sort of discipline that he does to this child no does he withhold food from him no there that’s why none of us ever thought it would been anything like that me I thought it was
his kidney because he when he eat everybody eat all my kids eat first I served every single last kid of mine first and my daughter and my son anybody can tell you when I cook I cook big meals MH and Jordan he was one to always eat M always we get pizza Heats like five six pieces of pizza and you know surprising me cuz he was like where do you put it Jordan you know like I mean he always ate he that’s why it surprised me when he started kind of losing his appetite and I used to have to sit with him and say Jordan you
got to at least eat something at least take a couple bites you know because I never had that problem with him when does he begin losing his um I don’t know the specific date I mean br two months summertime Springtime winter time I could say it was about late I mean maybe summer early summer you know he started losing appetite I got him to at least drink something I don’t you know like some behaviors were I saw where un called for sometimes Jordan will wake up I mean remember how I told you like with his rocking um that’s a
signature you I don’t me to no he’s always did that ever since when he was that’s sort of a signature of of children who have spent time in an incubator or children who are autistic they will whack and self soothe themselves see that’s the first time I heard that because I I even asked the doctor too and I was like why does he do that you know I guess self because I wasn’t there to you know rock him and cuddle and you know until he was 4 months that’s that was what he used to do and then used to get up in the middle of
the night time I used to like he was Sleepwalk so I would you know sometimes have to keep an extra eye on him MH because I caught him one time going to the bathroom getting toilet water and drinking toilet water and I’m looking like why is he you know like is he even alert when he’s doing this you know it would be like certain Behavior you know like and I used to have to stop him he go straight to the refrigerator I don’t even know if he’s like awake when he’s doing this or when if he’s sleeping or you know it’s just things I had to watch
out with him and he would just like get into anything and everything and I noticed that when he did it even after Jordan was gone my other son was doing it my other little son my four-year-old and I’m looking like is it because he watched Jordan do it or why is he doing the same thing that Jordan was doing it’s good good question I don’t know I mean is it a behavioral thing I mean it’s just something that I okay I recognize that Jordan used to do that you know like and it was just it and Jordan was perfectly fine it
was just something I felt like in the house too like it was not really wanting us there you know like a sense of something and I guess the I don’t know if you guys heard about this but I found out after I moved there because when I went to see the house it had a c caution thingy wrapped around it kind of like on the front bush and I look like maybe it was just for a Halloween decoration or something but the neighbors and somebody had told me that actually a father had killed his son or something happened there so it
kind of like you know like wait a minute you know this house is just like bad luck you know and I mean Jordan’s behaviors didn’t start till we moved there in that house I never seen Jordan Behavior act any different you know he his behavior just changed you know it’s just like I had to observe him a lot more there you know things that he was doing I never seen him do well to be fair by the time you move there he’s really developing an autistic child might be a little bit delayed right and he was 3 months delayed he’s probably even more delayed
than that um if if we didn’t get him into school but he’s developing into himself at age three so is it a coincidence I don’t know is there something to do with this house perhaps Christopher was interviewed as well but I could not find any recordings of those conversations you’re probably wondering as I was was if anyone had reported the that Jordan was enduring or where CPS was and all of this since Lissa was well known to them in a disturbing twist to this case it was uncovered that Lissa was in cahoots with a social worker in a
SNAP benefits scheme oh yes corruption to its core that added in Jordan’s murder snap short for supplemental nutrition assistance program also previously known as food stamps is designed for lowincome families to supplement their monthly food budget these benefits are supposed to ensure children in low income families receive healthy food snap will gather information on the Family’s income and how many children are living in the home and calculate an amount of money added to a state issued debit card every month
that is to be used for buying groceries there are prohibited items and they include alcoholic beverages tobacco products hot food any food intended for immediate on premises consumption like restaurants and fast food nonf food items such as Pet Foods soaps paper products medicines and vitamins household supplies grooming items and cosmetics Nancy carabello a parent educator at an agency contracted with Catholic Charities was assigned to the family of Lissa Rodriguez by CPS n was supposed to conduct monthly home visits
to check on Lissa’s children and their living conditions and file a report with CPS but during the investigation it was found through phone records that on at least 12 occasions Nancy would show up to Lissa’s home and instead of checking on the children and inspecting the home she would pick up Lissa’s SNAP benefits card pay Lissa 50 cents on every dollar on the card in exchange for filing false reports on the welfare of the children and the condition of the home investigators also found surveillance camera footage of Nancy using Lissa’s
snap card to buy groceries at Sam’s Club Walmart Giant Eagle and other stores according to Nancy the whole scheme was Lissa’s idea she was just brainwashed into thinking she was helping Lissa because of Nancy’s corruption and greed Jordan suffered in silence using the system created to protect Jordan for her own personal gain I mean my God lady you did this for groceries she may not have laid a hand on Jordan but in my opinion she is equally culpable in his murder Lissa and Christopher were ultimately charged with involuntary
manslaughter felonious assault endangering children and offenses against a human corpse the detectives Remington Diaz I certainly know that your job is very difficult and I look at these photographs and it’s very hard and I think you should be recognized more for the difficulty of what you do and the same to the state and to the defense this is equally difficult for you what we do every day is so hard people don’t give any of us the credit that we deserve for dealing with the horrors that are brought before us
and Mr Rodriguez this is a horror I know as a judge I’m not supposed to show emotion and in 22 years I never have this is one of the worst things I’ve ever seen in my life and I don’t understand Mr Rodriguez why you don’t want to cleanse yourself and tell the truth about what happened here and I hope someday you do whatever ever this child’s life was supposed to be you make sure it didn’t happen you and Lissa I look at friends and family people who are desperate to have children and want to have families and you two have babies with no
consideration you just keep having them having them disregarding the value of their life disregarding their purpose in life like they’re less than an object no regard I didn’t even hear you say you were sorry I will not accept the recommendation for Mr Rodriguez these crimes are horrific there’s no question in my mind that this child was abused it’s clear that you did everything you could you and Lissa to hide evidence to protect yourselves you had every opportunity at so many points to make a difference to get help to stop beating
somebody to call the police to ask for help to try to take him to the hospital I have to imagine that at some point you got in the internet and said how do I bury a body because this is unbelievable to me the level of meticulousness that you went through to not be discovered I honestly don’t know how you live with yourself I I don’t know how either one of you live with yourself the court imposes sentence as follows count one involuntary manslaughter feling you with first degree 11 years in prison count two felony the second degree fonus
assault 8 years in prison count three felony the third degree I’m sorry felony the second degree six years in prison count five abuse of the corpse B F degree 9 months in prison counts 1 two and three to be served consecutive to each other and concurrent to the sentence imposed in count five for a total sentence of 25 years the sentence is to be served concurrent to the sentence previously imposed in 625 508 for a total sentence of 25 years your sentences follows count one involuntary manslaughter 11 years in
prison count two Fon the second degree FL assault 8 years in prison count three fony the second degree 8 years in prison prison count five abuse of the corpse one year in prison all counts be served consecutive to each other with credit for any time served that’s a total sentence of 28 years it’s the maximum sentence available Nancy carabello was ultimately prosecuted for her crimes and sentenced to 3 years in prison
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