DEPRAVED PARENTS Stop Feeding 10mo old Mary Welch & Leave her to ROT

The Tragic Story of Baby Mary

This is beautiful baby Mary. She was a precious little soul who never knew love, warmth, or safety. It’s hard to believe, but Mary was deemed a nuisance by those who should have cherished her. Because of that, her short life of 10 months was nothing but pain. She suffered in silence; no one ever came to comfort her. They refused to hear her cries. Mary’s suffering was hidden from the world, her parents’ dirty little secret, until one day Mary couldn’t find the energy to cry anymore.

Even as Mary clung to her last breaths, she was alone. She was so broken, physically and emotionally, her little body stopped fighting. She lay there cold and lifeless for hours before her parents even realized she was no longer alive. Her parents, consumed by ego and fear of their filthy secret being exposed, delayed calling for help and ensuring Mary had no chance of being saved.

Her tragic demise may have been shrouded in darkness, but her light was so bright it exposed the horrific truth her parents tried so hard to hide. Mary’s tragic demise became a trumpet call, her little voice echoing louder in death than it ever could in life. She became so loved and missed by so many, an angel whose story sparked a cry for justice. Her parents couldn’t hide; their atrocities were exposed, ensuring they could never harm another child. Mary may not have been able to fight back in life, but there was indeed something extraordinary about her. She not only found her strength and her voice in death, she found her justice.

Join us as we give little Mary a voice and tell her story. We will shine the light on the horrific details that led to her untimely death and expose the evil hidden behind closed doors. We will hear from her parents, whose actions callously condemned their own infant daughter to a slow and painful demise. Their words and justifications will be laid bare, offering a chilling glimpse into the minds of monsters.

The Farm and the Descent into Extremism

Cedar Springs, Michigan, a small town with a rural atmosphere situated about 20 miles north of Grand Rapids. Solon Township, located adjacent to Cedar Springs, was home to Seth Welch and Tatiana Fusari, a young married couple with three children. They lived on a 10-acre farm where they operated a small business named Black Acre Farm Products. The couple cultivated organic produce, eggs, and honey, which they sold at pop-up produce stands and farmers markets. They presented as the quintessential granola family, deeply rooted in nature and health, guided by strong Christian morals. Their young children were frequently seen playing about the farm, immersed in the simplicity of beauty and nature.

Seth and Tatiana’s story began in New York where they met and started dating, but life soon took them on a different path. Tatiana decided to move to Michigan to live with her mother, and Seth followed suit, his decision fueled by the desire to remain close to Tatiana. However, Tatiana’s plan did not unfold as she had hoped. Her relationship with her mother became strained, prompting her mother to kick her out of the house. This unexpected turn of events forced Seth and Tatiana to reassess their situation, leading them to the 10-acre property in Solon Township. Seth described both himself and Tatiana as broken people searching for healing and growth. They saw the farm as an opportunity to mend their spirits and cultivate a life rooted in simplicity and nature.

However, this enormous lifestyle change also brought its own set of struggles for the family. Isolated on their farm, Seth’s unchecked mental state and inflated ego gradually led him down a path of extremism and convoluted beliefs. To outsiders, Seth preached a life of wholesomeness and morality, but internally, their world was fraught with turmoil.

The couple had an encounter with Child Protective Services that seemed to mark a significant turning point. The initial run-in occurred when doctors reported Tatiana for having an illegal substance in her system while giving birth to their first child. This incident set the stage for a contentious relationship with authorities, fueling Seth’s perception of them as adversaries. Seth had grandiose notions of fatherhood, believing that his rights over his children were absolute. He operated under the conviction that he could do as he pleased, even if it put his children in harm’s way, and that no one should have the authority to challenge him.

This mindset, exacerbated by their conflict with CPS, drove the couple to distance themselves from doctors and medical professionals, fearing that their children would be taken away. Their withdrawal from medical and social systems seemed to reveal an underlying awareness of their parenting inadequacies. They recognized their failure to provide proper care and sought to evade accountability. The fear of losing their children prompted them to live in secrecy and denial, further entrenching their extreme lifestyle choices. This avoidance not only endangered their children but also highlighted the tragic consequences of unchecked ego and isolation.

Their small-time farm operation brought on financial struggles, which added another layer of stress. The financial burden only fueled Seth’s descent into extreme beliefs. The stress of maintaining the farm, coupled with their isolation and avoidance of any outside assistance, exacerbated Seth’s mental state. As the farm struggled to remain viable, his grip on reality weakened, pushing him further into a world of convoluted beliefs and extremism.

Mary’s Birth and the Escalation of Neglect

On October 23rd, 2017, Tatiana gave birth to their third child, a little girl they named Mary Anne Welch. Tatiana gave birth to Mary at the farm with the assistance of a midwife. Mary was born healthy at 6 lbs 14 oz. In the early months of Mary’s life, everything appeared to be normal, or at least that’s what reports suggest. However, the truth remains a mystery. Mary never visited a doctor, leaving no medical records to paint an accurate picture of her well-being.

A few months after Mary’s birth, Tatiana was forced to take a job at the local McDonald’s, hoping it would alleviate some of the family’s financial struggles. This left Seth to care for their three young children from mid-afternoon until late at night. This shift in responsibility marked a significant turning point for Seth, who found himself overwhelmed by the demands of the farm and caring for their children during Tatiana’s absence. Seth’s frustration and instability began to surface. He sent her increasingly angry text messages expressing his inability to cope with Mary’s crying. These messages hinted at his cruel methods of silencing her, a chilling revelation of who he really was.

Mary’s cries became an unbearable sound to Seth, who viewed her as a problem that needed to be resolved. This period marked the beginning of a dark and troubling chapter. The once idyllic image of their family life began to crumble, revealing a descent into secrecy and mistreatment of Mary. In their eyes, she was perceived as an inconvenience, a burden that added even more stress to their already strained lives.

To the outside world, Tatiana seemed to be a humble and soft-spoken woman. Her demeanor was often perceived as genuine and kind, a loving wife and mother dedicated to her family. However, this perception was merely a facade concealing the darker truths within their household. Despite her outward appearance, Tatiana’s role in the tragic narrative of their family was far from innocent. Her supposed maternal instincts, which should have driven her to protect her child, were disturbingly absent.

August 2, 2018: The Discovery

On August 2nd, 2018, it seems Seth and Tatiana finally got their sick and twisted wish. Mary’s tiny little body could no longer sustain itself. At some point during a 19 to 20-hour period of being trapped and alone in her crib, Mary died. [Music]

Around noon, a 911 call was placed by Seth and Tatiana, stating they found Mary deceased in her crib. Mary was only 10 months old. Seth’s lack of emotion in the 911 call was absolutely shocking.

Dispatcher: Let me know when you’re right by the baby please. Dispatcher: Tell me please why you think she’s dead? Seth: She’s cold. She’s not breathing. I texted her earlier and she was unresponsive. Dispatcher: Okay sir, keep on the line okay. I just have a few more instructions… leave everything as you found it. Officer: I heard, I believe it’s the mother of the child, I don’t know if she’s your wife, she said she started CPR earlier. How long ago did you find this child? Seth: Uh, about an hour and a half. I um, was waiting. I called my lawyer first to ask, you know, what’s the next thing I should do, and they said wait till um, they’re here to call uh, you know, the police and get that going. Uh, basically that’s the point where I was waiting so long I just kind of went ahead and did it anyway. And so I just, I was waiting on legal counsel. Officer: So you found the child an hour and a half ago? Seth: Yeah. Officer: And called your lawyer first? Seth: Correct, yes. Officer: Okay. Good. Children in the home right now? Seth: Yeah… supposed to call the police or I have no idea what to do. Officer: Okay, we will sort it out, we’re going to investigate. Um, when was the last time you had contact with the child? Seth: Uh, last night. Um, yesterday afternoon about 3:00 p.m. you know, she goes to bed and you know, that was that. Officer: Okay, so you put her to bed last… yesterday at 3:00 p.m.? Seth: Yeah. And then this morning at like 10 something, we finally went to check on her like, okay it’s been way too long. So um, yeah, she sleeps long all the time normally, so… Officer: So you’re saying it is normal for your children to sleep from around 3:00 p.m. till 10:00 a.m.? Seth: Uh, you know usually about 9:00, 9:30, yeah. Officer: So they sleep from 3:00 p.m. to… I’m just typing a couple things here. What time they usually have dinner? Seth: Well my… they’re not all, they don’t all kind of run on the schedule, but she, you know, she basically eats something um, you know, she’s up for a half hour after that and then goes down for… Officer: Okay, and how old are the other children? Seth: Uh, four and two. Officer: There are two other children? Seth: Yeah. Officer: And at home right now, right? Seth: Yep. Officer: And you said when you found her she was already believed to be deceased, right? Seth: Yeah, and that’s when you consulted with a lawyer. Yep. Officer: Do you believe she was beyond help already? Seth: Oh yeah. Officer: But your wife still tried CPR again? Seth: Yeah, when, when she first got her up, yeah. Before like, before we called and everything. Yeah, that was the first thing she did.

When first responders arrived, they were met with a scene that would sear itself into their memories forever. The sight of little Mary, lifeless and neglected, was a haunting image that no amount of training could have prepared them for. It was a moment of profound sorrow and disbelief. Mary’s tragic discovery not only left a lasting impact on the first responders but also unleashed a wave of grief and outrage that ripped through the headlines. Mary’s story captured the hearts of people around the world as they grappled with the harsh reality of the evil that festered behind closed doors.

When first responders arrived, Mary was found deceased in her crib. She had been deceased for a while, and unfortunately, there was no saving her. The inside of the home was in deplorable condition. It was a shocking sight for first responders. They knew this was no accident or illness. Law enforcement was called in immediately and an investigation began into Mary’s death. Seth and Tatiana were interviewed on scene and then asked to come to the police station for more formal interviews.

The following are the recordings of these interviews that have been released to the public. I’ve only cut out small talk and insignificant details and heavily redacted portions of the interviews. I typically only play clips of interrogations in the interest of time, but Mary’s death and her parents’ reaction to it is so sickening and heartbreaking, I think it’s important to show the interviews in their entirety. I will also be including my reaction to these interviews and giving details or context to clear up any confusion or missing pieces. Please make sure to stay tuned because after the interviews I’ll reveal more details in Mary’s case and discuss any new developments to bring you completely up to date on this tragic case.

The Police Interrogations

Interview with Seth

Seth: I expected all of the worst. So yeah. Officer: You did? Seth: Pretty much, that’s pretty much what I come to expect of the U.S. government. So separate, if you can do me a favor, they separate us from the U.S. government, ’cause we’re not the U.S. Officer: Well, I know you guys are part of the machine though. Seth: So we try to keep ourselves apart from the machine… Officer: And I respect you for saying that though. Um, I kind of get where you’re coming from on that to some extent. Um, just I ask you not paint us all with the same brush. When you said you kind of expected us to come back, but what… what made you think we were going to come back? Seth: Well you got… your job is to fill cells. So there, they… they’ll… Officer: Oh, cells. Yeah. So I mean that’s, that’s the furthest from the truth, but…

Narrator: To my experience, Seth knows good and well why he is sitting in this chair, and yet what he is doing is he’s trying to turn everything around on the investigators. So instead of taking any accountability for what obviously happened to Mary, he’s turning around and deflecting onto the officers.

Officer: Correct me if I’m wrong ’cause I kind of, I grew up in the church, but about five years ago you kind of came to a faith conversion. Does that sound right? Seth: Um, it’s… that’s a pretty, yeah. I, you know, I read and believed the Books of Moses when I was five. So it’s been a lot longer than that. Officer: You could read that when you were five? Seth: Yes. Officer: Way ahead of me, man. You’re a smart dude. Smart dude. All right, but it’s safe to say though that over the last five, six, seven years your faith has gotten very radical. Seth: I didn’t say that. I just did. No, why would you say you got radical? Officer: Well you know, I’m just, I’m out there. I know that when you I guess take that… Seth: Yeah, what makes you think you’re out there though? Officer: I think what you… when you say you’re out there, what you believe though is what you believe even though you think others think you’re out there. You think, well, you’re correct, right? That be fair to say? Seth: Yes. Officer: All right. I don’t think you’re that far out there by any means. We believe in Jesus, right? Seth: Yeah. Officer: Forgiveness of sins, confession, doing the right thing, right? So we’re all on the same page. The autopsy was performed… and the condition… how would you describe the condition that they found her in? Seth: Well I know for example that you know, what um, your partner said, you know that you guys could like see her stuff… you know, I mean skin gets translucent after death. So uh, that doesn’t surprise me. Um, yeah, I know, I know she was very skinny. I was a bit surprised uh, even that morning when we came to get her. Um, I can’t say, and I have pictures on my phone proving it, um, you know that that was the condition she was normally in. Um, you know her, her face was gaunt, and that really, that struck me. But that’s not, that has not, and like I said I have plenty of evidence and witnesses um, that that has not been the normal condition. Officer: How long do you think she’s been in that condition? Seth: Well I mean it couldn’t have been that long. We put her at 3:00… Officer: Was she like that when you put her down? Seth: I did not put her down. But no, she was alive when we put her down. Officer: As far as appearance goes though, she appeared gaunt and when you put her down she… Seth: No. I, I’m, I keep looking at your phone ’cause it looks just like my phone, but I have pictures of her on my phone of like me holding her, and you know she’s like, yeah she’s always been a skinny girl, but um, you know nothing that way. Officer: What do you think the most recent picture in your phone would be? The most recent, like of you holding her? Seth: So the one you’re referring to, I don’t know, maybe a week. Officer: Oh so that was, yeah okay. Seth: Um, I have a video of her and my daughter um, you know, playing in her little swingy chair and… Officer: The doctor, the ME… the autopsy, yes… says she’s been like this for a long, a while. He said she hasn’t eaten or drank, and that’s the cause of her death. Seth: I think some meals got missed over the last couple of months, and gradually she’s been losing weight. I like I said, um, I can provide receipts for baby food. Uh, you guys uh, the garbage cans are still the garbage cans… Officer: How often, how often have you actually fed her? Seth: I feed her every day. Officer: Every day? Seth: Yes, when my wife um, as we’ve gone over, uh, when my wife puts her down for a nap and goes to work, she takes a nap and she gets up, and I feed her either three or four of those Gerber cups of baby food, you know that are like, and she eats the whole thing. We’ll sit right down, no problem, the whole thing. Whole thing. And so unless you want to count what the cats can lick up out of the bottom… Officer: So at some point, do you know that she weighed 1 pound and 4 ounces more than when she was born? Seth: No, I didn’t know that. Officer: 1 pound and 4 ounces more than a baby… she weighed less than a lot of babies are born at.

Narrator: According to news articles, Mary only weighed about 8 lbs at her death. The typical weight for a 10-month-old baby is anywhere between 16 and 24 lbs. So Seth is completely lying here when he is saying that Mary was just a skinny girl, but she was fine, and I guess all of a sudden in the middle of the night she became emaciated and passed away because of the lack of hydration and food.

Officer: Seth, here’s the thing. Uh, so I’m not a doctor. So for me to tell you anything else, I mean I don’t know. But what I am saying is that the, the doctor um, says that she died of, what’s the technical stuff say? Um, in layman’s terms she died because she’s dehydrated and no food. In dehydration. Neither of us is saying that either of you don’t love your kids, ’cause it is obvious that you do, okay? It’s obvious. But it’s also very obvious that you’re lying to us right now, and you know that is not right to lie. You know it isn’t. It is impossible for you to have fed that kid three to four cups…

Narrator: Notice here Seth is now crossing his arms. So prior to this he had his hands on the table, he was kind of leaning more forward and engaging with the law enforcement, but now he’s got his arms crossed. It’s very common when someone is feeling… it’s kind of like a subconscious response, it indicates discomfort, defensiveness, or anxiety. This body language might be used when someone feels threatened or under intense pressure, which can happen when the police are getting close to uncovering the truth. Crossing the arms is indicative of self-protection, creating a physical barrier between yourself and the stressful environment you’re in. It can also be a sign of defensiveness; when someone is trying to hide something or feels attacked, they might adopt a defensive posture like crossing their arms. Right here it’s showing that the police are getting really close to the truth as to what really happened to Mary, just by Seth’s body language here with him crossing his arms and things.

Officer: …a day. Impossible. Seth: By your reckoning? No, hold on now. By my reckoning yes, because you can’t, you weren’t there, you can’t say. And so to say that it’s, you know, that’s something you’re going to have to bring up with God on your own day. Officer: Hold on, I got the evidence, man. But I guess I’d say it this way, is that the ME again, we’re not doctors, what the ME is saying is that, is that okay, that’s what they’re saying. So if that’s the case, we’re not doctors either, but there wasn’t enough frequent feedings to sustain her. So maybe, I don’t, I mean I don’t know any of that, but maybe that happened, but it didn’t happen often enough, and that’s what the concern is. And the concern is, and I think it could have just been, you know, that slippery slope that you just don’t realize maybe what’s happening right away. But when she’s sleeping so much, you think, “Oh good, she’s sleeping.” But she’s sleeping so much because she doesn’t have energy, because she’s… and then this goes on and on and on and on, and she’s losing weight. So then when she is awake, you’re trying to give her like, “Hey come on girl, fatten up a little bit, let’s get some pounds on.” But then she’s sleeping for, you know, whatever 15, 18, whatever the hours come out to be. And then we repeat this cycle. So without the schematics of how much and that, the simple fact of the matter is clearly it wasn’t enough. Seth: Well like I said, you know I um, you’re happy to get another search warrant and go through my garbage and find all the um, all the baby food, and um… Officer: So the durations that… those are… when did, did that ever concern you that the long durations for like two months of her… how long she laid in bed? Seth: Um, well recently uh, like I think I told you yesterday, well recently you know, she had like, like we said um, been going through a growth spurt. I know it’s probably hard to believe you’re in… and so all our kids used to sleep 12 to even 14 hours on a growth spurt. Um, 15 um, for very short periods of like a month or two. Um, teething stage, all that kind of stuff. Um, so… Officer: So you guys thought she went through a growth spurt, according to Tatiana? Because there was never any measurements or weights or anything like that. And she was only one pound heavier than the day she was born, and she was only three inches longer than the day she was born. So there clearly was evidentially no… Seth: Well after, after she um, after she was born you know, she had lost a little weight like a lot of babies um, you know, so I mean there, and I doubt death did her any favors in those regards either. So um, you know, if it was a… it was a little bit, but we noticed it. Officer: Okay, you know the ME said, and he does she at least two autopsies a day, hundreds of them a year, hundreds in his probably thousands in his career, has never seen a case this bad. Looks like she was in a camp. And I just, everything you’re saying to me is terrible. It makes me feel like absolute… Seth: But I don’t know what to say, ’cause I, I fed her, and like I said, taking cups to the house and let me dig through the garbage can and show you the empty cups of food. Officer: Do you think people in camps that look like that got that way overnight? No, but they gradually start looking worse like that for a while. So much so that your wife thought a couple of days ago she was probably going to… and my guess is now, see I’ll say I think you’re lying, because she would have said her words were “gravely ill” and that she thought she was going to… I also know you guys are trained to lie, so you can take it for what it is. Okay, just like you wouldn’t answer me that question starting to lie. We are not, we are not trained to lie. Do we lie? Yes, we do from time to time. Are we lying to you now? Absolutely not. I’m telling you that right now. Her words: “gravely ill.” And you knew it too, I believe, which is why when you called 911 and you had already called your parents, which is also why there’s no emotion, ’cause you already knew she was going to die.

Narrator: If you recall during the 911 call, Seth shockingly admitted he called his attorney before calling 911 and stated his attorney told him to wait until they arrived before calling for help. That is what law enforcement is referring to here. They are commenting on Seth’s lack of emotion saying that maybe he had time to process Mary’s death during the long period of time he waited to call for help. I want to point out that during Seth’s trial, a troubling revelation was brought up by the DA: Seth wasn’t waiting for his attorney to arrive, but rather his parents. Allegedly after calling his parents to inform them of Mary’s tragic death, it was either suggested or agreed upon by all parties that Seth and Tatiana should wait for his parents to arrive before seeking any help. If this account is true, it raises serious concerns about the moral compass guiding Seth and his family. Such a decision is not only shocking but also raises the question of whether Seth’s parents have been consistently helping him evade accountability throughout his life. This pattern, if it exists, would suggest a troubling history of avoiding responsibility at the cost of justice and integrity.

Officer: …a couple of days ago and had already come to grips with the fact that she was going… Now you sit across from this table and call yourself my brother and say things like that… I, I think it’s possible you tell me… I can tell you for a fact, for a fact, that she looked like this for at least a week to the point where it’s obvious, obvious she needs help. My guess is she’s looked like this for at least two to three weeks. Seth: I mean it, it used to be common for kids not to make it um, it’s called natural selection and it’s a hard part of real life on earth. Um… Officer: Do you think she was part of natural selection? She… I mean she’s always been small, she’s always… I don’t know how you feel bad about this. What do you think I’m asking? Seth: I don’t know… the way you’re talking like it’s natural selection makes me think you don’t. Officer: There’s a difference between you know… almost sounds to me like you’re saying, “now she was weak, oh well, I don’t care about it.” Seth: I know that’s how you take it, but I, I’m not, I’m not really too worried about it. Officer: You’re about to have another baby right? Seth: I hope so. Officer: Are you going to do this one different as far as raising it? Seth: How the thing is, is that all I’m being put on like trial… I know I’m not on trial, but the only thing I’m being on trial here for is the one that went wrong. Officer: Mhm. Yep. Seth: Well like I said, um, there are certainly some things that I would have, I would do differently in hindsight. Um, nothing is keeping me up at night.

Narrator: Seth’s lack of emotion and remorse for Mary’s suffering is truly shocking. His arrogance suggests that he believes he is outsmarting law enforcement and will soon return to his life as if nothing ever happened. This impression is reinforced by his smug and careless demeanor, which becomes even more evident later in the video during a conversation with Tatiana in one of the interrogation rooms.

Interview with Tatiana

Officer: So this morning you found her about 9:00 and did you, is that, that’s what time you woke up? Tatiana: No, no, I woke up around 7:00. The kids are very consistent with their wake up time at 7:00. Officer: And she’s always up at… Tatiana: Uh, yes except when she’s going through a growth spurt, she’ll sleep in until about 9:00 or 10:00. Officer: Okay. Tatiana: Which is why I went to check in on her at 9:00 and I wondered why she wasn’t up yet. Officer: Okay, but last night when I came home I, I opened the door just a tad so we could make that noise… and yesterday you finished feeding her at 2:30? Tatiana: Yep. Officer: And you put her to bed at 2:30? Tatiana: And that was the last time you saw her ’cause you went to work then? Yeah. Officer: Okay, but then you came home at 11:30 and when you opened the door you saw movement from her? Tatiana: Mhm. Officer: You’re certain you saw movement from her? Tatiana: Absolutely. Officer: Okay, yes or I’d be like, what is… uh-huh. So did you go any further into that room other than just looking through the door? Tatiana: No, the crack in the door. I did not. Officer: Was it the hole in the door or the crack in the door that you looked at? Tatiana: It was a hole in the door. I didn’t open the door completely, I just pushed it enough so it would make the noise. It’s a very old creaky door so I pushed it enough it makes the noise. It doesn’t open the door completely and she nudges because she hears it, and I just peek at her. I see her moving and she’s… Officer: What did, when you say that you saw her moving, how did you see her move? Can you describe that? Tatiana: She was laying on her back still. Um, her blanket wasn’t kicked off, and I only wrap it right around the knees down to her feet to keep her feet warm. Um, she was laying on her back, her head was turned to the left side a bit, so when I um, pushed the door open she jerked her arm a little and turned her head so I can see that her eyes are still closed. She was squinting a bit like, what was that? And then just, I said okay, and that’s what she does. Officer: And what time would that have been? Tatiana: Around 11:30, 11:45. Let’s just say 11:30. Officer: So when, but, but she went to bed at 3:00, wouldn’t it be odd, wouldn’t wouldn’t it be odd like for Seth that she’s still in bed when he went to bed? ‘Cause she’s in bed at… Tatiana: She went to, she went to sleep at 2:30, she’s done this before and so have our other kids, which is why we thought if she’s sleeping we let her lay…

Narrator: So Tatiana is saying she left for work at 2:30 p.m. and arrived home around 11:30 p.m. and then she checked on Mary. She only peeked through a hole in the door and said she saw some movement. There is so much wrong here. First of all, that is 9 hours that Mary has been left alone in her crib. Anyone who has raised children knows at 10 months old this is not normal. All I can think of is day after day Mary left alone for hours upon end, her cries never answered, diapers never changed, and most of all not being fed. I went to night school when my kids were young, I couldn’t wait to get home and kiss their little cheeks, make sure they were covered up and safe. Why didn’t she go in and do a diaper change and feed Mary? Well, in my opinion, because they were waiting for her to pass away. Tatiana peeked in and saw her moving and probably thought, “Oh, she’s still alive.” But as law enforcement told Seth, Tatiana knew, she knew Mary was dying and she did nothing.

Officer: Well yeah, I mean I get that, but you, you saw her and we saw her, and she’s tiny. Tatiana, we’re all parents in this room, okay? And we all need to be honest. You remember in the car when I first talked with you, and I told you that at the end of the day we all need to know exactly right? Okay, so we need to tell her story. Okay, and I want you to think about this for a minute. I want you to think for a second and put, put yourself in our shoes. You’re the police officer, you’re the police detective, you get called out to that home today. You get called to my home or his home today, okay. You’re the police officer, and then you have to go into that house and you have to look at that, that precious little angel, okay. Do you think she was healthy honestly? When you look at her size and you can see every single bone in her body, do you think she was healthy? We know this isn’t easy Tatiana, but we need to know what happened to her, what was going on. But when did she start losing all that weight? Tatiana: The past two days… but she, she’s lost so much weight that you can’t lose that much in two days. Officer: She… I’ve never seen a child that skinny, really, never. And here’s the thing, you’re obviously a very concerned mom, but at what point, at what point did you know, what point did you think something was wrong? ‘Cause I know that you knew something, or you thought something wrong. You are an intelligent educator, woman, and at some point you felt something was wrong. Was not into… Tatiana: For me I just, I had so much… maybe it was just delusional hope that she was getting bigger and, and our cheeks were getting fuller and she was just so happy and playful. And then she past couple days… Officer: So when, at what point did she… she, she can’t even weigh 8 lbs right now. She doesn’t weigh 8 lbs. When’s the last time that you actually inspected her? That you looked at her? Tell me the truth. Every time when I change her. And I think I just may have been just, just so blinded, and I just… Officer: What were you blinded by? ‘Cause I know listen, you are an intelligent, articulate, college-educated early childhood development, you know, you know when you look at someone that something’s wrong. I have a picture of her right here. I’m prepared to show you that tells you no medical treatment. As dumb as I am, I’m not near as intelligent as you, I can’t speak the words you can speak, I am not you. And even I can look at this photo and I can say, “whoa, something’s wrong.” It put tears in our eyes when we walked in there. It was that obvious, Tatiana. I’m going to be quite honest with you right now, okay. One parent to another, right? And I’m going to try and control my emotions all right. I’ve been to a child death investigator school and I’ve seen photos and images of children that have been malnourished, and I’m telling you right now this is the worst thing I’ve ever seen. Tatiana: Oh no, really? Officer: Yes. Oh you, you clearly need help too though. You’re going to be dealing with this. This is baggage. This is something that… but all I want to know is what stopped you from seeking help? You knew something was wrong. What stopped you? Tell us the truth. I mean are you guys that financially strapped? I mean what is it? Do you not believe in healthcare? Do you, I mean do you have religious beliefs? I mean what is it? Tatiana: We do have religious beliefs and I, we just, we were praying about it and, and we have faith that, that… Officer: When did you start praying about it? I mean, when she was born? Tatiana: But consistently and, and heavily the past three, three, four days. Officer: So three, four days ago you started praying. What for? Your prayers… Tatiana: Please help her gain weight. Please, she’s, she’s eating, why isn’t it sticking? Like why, like I, she ate so much, like but so… Officer: Why, why, why would it stick? Because you guys weren’t feeding her, that’s why it didn’t stick. You are lying. It’s because you guys were not feeding her. I have a strong faith as well, a very strong faith, and I think God answers prayers. I’m with you on that. I also think God puts people in places to help people, but we all have our own beliefs. But here’s what I’m saying is that you, you guys knew enough was wrong to start heavily and consistently praying. Why didn’t we seek help? You knew… Tatiana: I just didn’t want to say anything to Seth. I, Seth hadn’t known he doesn’t ever hold her. Yes, but he was also very um, faithful and, and trusting God and, and trusting that, that it would be okay and didn’t think we needed to bring her to a doctor. We know… Officer: How long did you know this? What the… it doesn’t happen in 3 days, it doesn’t happen in 4 days. Tatiana: I think I, I just deluded myself. I just didn’t want to believe that… Officer: So when did you delude yourself? When did you start… when did this condition start? Tatiana: I think within the month. It starts to become a little bit up and down. Her cheeks would be full and, and bright, and, and then a couple days later she would, she would look ill or hungry, and then we’re… not hungry just…

Narrator: What did you just say, Tatiana? Did you just say ill or hungry and then caught yourself and then said “oh, not hungry”? Right there she messes up, she tells the truth actually. She says she looked ill and more specifically hungry. She knew her and Seth were purposely starving their child.

Tatiana: …just her cheeks wouldn’t be as full as they were, shrunken in. Yeah. Officer: And then so when did you notice that she had out of the shower… about a month? Tatiana: About a month ago. Officer: Let me ask you this, when was the last time you bathed her? Tatiana: Oh, um, maybe two weeks ago.

Narrator: Did you guys hear that? Two weeks ago. She had not bathed Mary in two weeks. I can’t even imagine the suffering that poor baby was going through if she wasn’t getting regular diaper changes. Can you guys even imagine? And no baths for two weeks. Unbelievable.

Officer: So about a month ago you, you noticed that her bones are all showing right? And so is that when you started heavily praying? Tatiana: No, it was, it was the past few days. Because uh, about a month ago would be like full, and then, you know, two days later it would be shrunken in, but then within the day it’d be full again. But then the past few days it wouldn’t fill up as quickly as, as it used, as it did. But… Officer: Listen, here’s what I’m saying Mary… listen I get that, but her legs were as small as my pointer finger. So you… that, that didn’t happen in 3 days, you know, and I know that you know that. And I know that you wanted to get her help, but I’m trying to just figure out when did this happen. I understand that maybe he started seeing some kind of symptoms a month ago, but when, when did she consistently lose all of this weight? When did she consistently become bone? Tatiana: I think it was within the month. ‘Cause she, she was always just so, so thin and so… Officer: Within a month? So then why when we had a month to look at her like this, why, why didn’t we get help? Tatiana: We thought, we thought she’d get better without getting help. Officer: How did you think she was going to get better? Tatiana: By feeding her, and, and, and being with her. Officer: Was she really truly eating the way that you were telling us? Tatiana: Yes, because you know, if, if you want, he has a photo of her and if you want to see it, I mean she… Officer: I’m pretty sure that I explained this to both you and Seth when you were in my car with me, um, you know, she’s… there’s going to be an autopsy done, okay? And there was a medical, a person from the medical examiner office at the house, okay? So we’re going to know all this stuff. But, and you’re not, you’re not a bad person, we get all this and we get that there’s, there’s a dynamic here that we’re trying to figure out. There is a dynamic here. I’m going to tell you, I know it, I can, I know there’s a dynamic. And I feel that you wanted to get her help. I’m trying to just figure out why you didn’t. What’s the dynamic? What am I missing? Because you can’t tell me that this Brooklyn, New York, this New York College, city college educated, Grand Rapids Community College early childhood person didn’t know that this girl needed help. But something stopped her. I just, I’m trying to figure out what it is. What stood between you and help? Tatiana: I think that I was just, I think I was worried about another CPS call from the doctors. And I thought that um, Mary would get better and it would be okay. But… Officer: At what point did you get better… about two days ago or three days ago? Tatiana: Two… she… Officer: So two, three days ago you thought she wasn’t going to get better. So then why didn’t we call then? Tatiana: Because I thought that I was being doubtful and I, I, I… Officer: You thought, you thought you were being doubtful of Christ? Tatiana: Yes, I, I thought I was uh, lessening in my faith. And I just… Officer: Is that what Seth thought, too? That I sell out… no, I want to know out of you two which one, which, which one of you wanted to go to take her to the doctor? Tatiana: I know he didn’t, and I, I didn’t for a long time until recently. It just became a little thought in my head that maybe we should. And then I was worried about CPS, and about, about I’m just losing faith. We’ve had issues with CPS before, and I just didn’t want to lose this kid. Officer: So you thought, you thought you lose… you thought you losing faith by thinking you needed to go to the doctor? Tatiana: That yeah, that I wasn’t having faith in God to fix this. Mhm. I feel stupid about it now. Officer: Much so. So I’m, that’s what we’re, that’s, that’s what we’re trying to figure out. Do you think… I’m not ridiculing this, I just want to know. Do you guys think that, that God doesn’t want us to use doctors? Tatiana: No. Officer: So you do, you think God puts people in places to help us? Tatiana: Yes I do, I believe that for sure. Officer: And you think doctors could be those people? Tatiana: Yeah. Officer: So I still, I, I, I get what you’re saying, but, but this is what I’m telling you: two days ago I could have looked at this child and I could have said, said, “this child has hours to live.” Two days ago I could have looked at this child and I, I probably would have felt this child has minutes to live. Two days ago if I had seen this child in your hands, being a stranger I am, I’d have snatched this child out of your hands and faced the consequences. That’s what I’m trying to reason with, is that you… so, but you didn’t, you didn’t receive the help. And you knew that two days ago you knew. You just said that, you that she was probably, what’d you say, “beyond help” or whatever it was two days ago. So what… Tatiana: Not beyond help, I just… Officer: At what point, at what point in this illness did you think there’s a good chance she’s going to die? Tatiana: I didn’t think at all that she was. Officer: How could you not think that? Delusional? Tatiana: I don’t have a reason why I couldn’t think that. I was being such a hopeful mom I suppose. I, I don’t have a good reason for you. I’m sorry. Officer: What was your conversations like with Seth? You said a minute ago that you knew that he didn’t want to go to a doctor? Tatiana: Yeah, ’cause we discussed it before that we just discussed her conditions… yes. Officer: When was the first time you guys discussed that? Tatiana: Maybe a month ago. Officer: So a month ago is when, what, what did you notice a month ago? ‘Cause I’m, I’m certain you’re the one ’cause you said that, you know, Seth didn’t want to go, so obviously you’re the one that brought up needing to go to the doctor. What did you notice a month ago? Tatiana: That she was almost nine months old and just wasn’t filling into her clothing like she should. And, and you know, we talked about it, and you just, just have faith, and just we’ll keep feeding her like we do, and keep nursing her and keep her active and she’ll get there. It’s okay, she’ll get there. But… Officer: Let me ask you something. If Seth told you that God told him to kill one of your children, would you do it? Tatiana: No. Officer: That’s what I’m saying though, I’m, that’s what I’m trying to wrap my head around. How many conversations did you have with Seth about us? Tatiana: Not very many. Maybe two at most, just because we didn’t want to worry about it. We, we trusted God, and… Officer: Would he get angry talking about it? Tatiana: No. I think he’d be very stressed… Officer: What would happen, what would he… how would he react if you took him to the, took her to the doctor anyway? Tatiana: Not sure, it, something like that has never happened. Um, I’m just asking to speculate. I think he would just be concerned that CPS would be called, but not angry. Just say “okay, just know that you took her to the doctor, expect CPS to come to the house.” Officer: He’s not an angry type person? Tatiana: No. Okay.

Narrator: Keep this answer in your mind for later in the video. The law enforcement officer asked Tatiana if Seth was an angry person and she answered no. Just keep that in mind for later in the video when we discuss her defense that she used in trial.

Officer: How, how is he as far as emotion goes? Tatiana: He uh, he’s not afraid to cry, we’ll just say that. Officer: Cries a lot? Is he, is he, would you say that he wears his emotions on his sleeve? Tatiana: I suppose, I mean when, when we were going through our, our marriage, the beginning of it, and he was very expressive about how um, about his feelings and, and how he would like to be treated, and how I’m treating him well, and, and then in return told me he realized that he wasn’t being a respectful husband and wasn’t treating me well either. So he’s very intuitive and he was and expressive… Officer: So today at 9:00 you found her deceased. What time were we called? Tatiana: I don’t know, I think it was, was it 11? It was like a long time. Why we called, we called my in-laws first and… Officer: But the time that the sheriff’s department was called to respond to your house was at 12:06. That’s when they came out, that’s when they were called, that’s when 911 was called. Tatiana: That’s when 911 was called? Was 12:06? Officer: 3 hours and 6 minutes later. Tatiana: My father-in-law said to wait until um, they were close because they live an hour away. To wait until they were close before we called, so we can get there at the same time. Officer: That would explain two, that would explain 1 hour, or what about the other 2 hours and 6 minutes of waiting? Tatiana: I think that we were in such a state of shock that we just didn’t know what to do. Well let me ask you this… did you ever look at how tiny and sunken and she looked and say “we’re in trouble”? Yeah, I think actually it came across my mind today. Officer: Did you guys have a discussion about it? Tatiana: No. Officer: Did he say anything to you about that? Tatiana: No. Officer: Did you… why, why did it come across your mind? What were you thinking? Is that why it took so long to call 911? I’ve, I’ve never worked a case that’s taken that long to call 911. This has just never happened before with anyone we knew. Tatiana: Or we waited for a response from my father-in-law to see what his advice was. We had no idea what to do, and he said “yes he should call the police, we’re on our way, wait until we’re close.” Officer: But, but even, even by um, your father-in-law he wasn’t even called until around approximately 10:30 to 10:45. So we’re still looking at an hour and a half. Tatiana: It may have been after 9:00 then because that is a very long time, and it did not feel that long at all. It must have been just before 10:00 then. I’m sorry if, if I gave you the wrong time. Officer: No no, you, you’re not expected to, to, to check your watch every time you go check something. We’re not holding it all to those times. Tatiana: I know it was before 10:00 but it was definitely after 9:00. Officer: That is an excessively long time to just stand around there… That’s so, so alright let’s, let’s even just give the benefit of the doubt and say it’s 10:00 okay, that’s 10:00. So ’cause like you said you know it was before 10:00 but we’ll just play it safe and just say it was 10:00, okay? And so 10:00 rolls around, you, you, you check, then you did CPR for about 10 minutes according to what you told me. So then what, what’d you do for the next two hours? ‘Cause that’s still… we waited, yeah. Um, before you called us you waited for two hours before we got called. Tatiana: We waited for my in-laws to come. We were trying to contact them and then we, we got a response… um, well when we were trying to contact them… Officer: Was that like a long process to get ahold of them? Tatiana: I actually don’t know, I’m sorry. I was just, I was just… Seth was the one that contacted them. I didn’t. Oh actually, so I don’t know how long it took, if any time at all. I was just very um, very struck. Officer: So you said you swept… what else, what other kind of house cleaning did you do? ‘Cause you said your mother-in-law doesn’t like a dirty house. Tatiana: Yeah, um, the kids… just to distract them, I just had them clean their room. Put your toys away and… Officer: Did they know what was going on? Tatiana: We told them, but I don’t… mhm. Officer: So then they clean their rooms and then what did you and Seth do? Tatiana: We swept through the house and we hugged and cried and we just sat on the couch and just, just were silent. Officer: But you know there’s just some odd thing obviously, you know, you know this case is odd, and you never once expressed to Seth that “hey this doesn’t, this isn’t good. Look at her, look at her.” Tatiana: No I didn’t. Officer: Did he ever, did he ever even make a comment about her body? You guys looked at her and he never, he never said anything about it? Tatiana: No. Officer: You know how he described her to us on the phone? I can, you can listen to the 911… he described her as “nope, she’s dead as a doornail.” He gets like that when he’s very very upset. He’s just, just distraught. And he… I cry and yeah he cries, but he tries to be strong for everyone. Officer: Let me ask you a question. You, you had been through some training, early childhood development schooling and stuff like that, correct? Tatiana: Yeah. Officer: Did you ever receive or go through any kind of like CPR training or, or anything like that? Tatiana: I have, yes. Okay. Officer: Let me ask you this: if you were driving down the road, kids are in the back seat in their car seats, and you’re driving down the road and you witness a car accident. What, what are you going to do? And, and there’s people that are bloody there at the scene, what are you going to do? And, and my kids are with me in the car? Mhm. Tatiana: Well I, if there’s space for me to pull over, I’d pull over. I would check to see if anyone’s responsive and then I’d call the police so I can let them know what was going on. And if there’s something I could do I, I’d try, but I know that if there’s any sort of injury that I’m not familiar with, I can’t move the body. Officer: Okay, so you know that you can call 911, right? Yes. So then why not call 911 immediately when your child’s not moving? That’s what I don’t understand. Tatiana: I think because it happened to me personally, I was just… it was my, my little girl. I just, it’s shock. I, I, I’m sorry, I don’t have an answer for you. I was just so never imagining that could happen. Officer: Jason and I have been doing this a long time, and I understand, and I’ve seen it time and time again, everybody deals with stress and reacts to things differently. But if there’s one thing that I’ve, I’ve seen in the course of, of doing this job for a long time, is there’s usually never hesitation to pick up the phone and call 911. That is a pretty ingrained, rapid, basic life-saving response that is ingrained in everybody, especially in our country, because of our emergency medical system that we have. When did you first teach your kids about 911? When did, I’m, when did you first teach your children about 911? Tatiana: Um, less than a year ago. Officer: Okay, so when you’re doing CPR you don’t scream to Seth “call 911”? Tatiana: No, and I… wow. And I know that that’s like the second step or the first, the first step actually. Officer: What did you think by calling 911 that he would think your faith was less? Tatiana: No, not at all actually, I, okay, we just… he called his dad first, wiping the spit-up from her face, and then he went to contact his parents. I don’t know how long that took, I was just, just after she wasn’t responding, I was just sitting there rocking her. I don’t know for how long. I, I have no idea for how long. And then after he got off the phone with his dad… um, his dad said, “okay wait until we are close, so, and then call the police, we can get there at the same time they do so we can help with any, anything I suppose legally.” Officer: So um, your plan of action if you ever saw a child come to school like that, it’s called Child Protective, because you had a, what, to report, you’d have a duty right? Tatiana: Yes. Officer: Did you… so, so, so but you didn’t help your child? Tatiana: No. No, I felt I was helping her by feeding her and nursing her and playing with her. Officer: But, but two, two to four days ago you knew it was really bad. Tuesday. Tuesday you knew it was really bad, and so that is what prompted you more than ever to be checking and looking to make sure she wiggles when you move a door. [Music] Tatiana: And because of how she looks. I did it every day regardless. Officer: That matters, okay. Yeah it does matter. Absolutely. Every, every day, every night. No nobody… Tatiana, for, for one second I don’t want you to think anybody is trying to say that you didn’t love your child. No, okay. But I am going to be blatantly honest with you: you didn’t provide the necessary care for your daughter. You didn’t. Do you think you did? And we’re just trying to figure out why… do, do you think you did right? Tatiana: That’s a very hard question to answer because she’s dead, so no, but I tried. I fed her, but… Officer: What stopped you? Truly, what stopped you from what, from get, from getting her help a month ago? Was it embarrassment? Was it fear? Was it, I, what was it? Tatiana: I think it was, it was fear of CPS. I, I think that I just thought that I was overreacting, and it was just all in my head because I, I, I tend, I tend to, to overthink things when it’s not necessary, and I just thought there was another one of those. Mhm. And our other two children are just so healthy and… or am I delusional about that too? Like I don’t know, I, as far as they appear, I mean they… Officer: What, but here’s the difference though, you just said it right there. You just said it: as far as they appear, but we know she hasn’t appeared healthy, so that it’s not a delusion, it’s an observation that your other two children clearly appear healthy, right? Clearly she didn’t. That’s comparing apples and oranges, so it shows that your observations were working, you weren’t delusional. You know that these two appear healthy and this one didn’t, so we need to go get this one fixed, figure out what’s wrong with her. Tatiana: I don’t, we have more time for her to, to fill out. Officer: Well let me ask you this, did, did you, did you plan on having each of your children? Tatiana: No, no oops. We knew we were having unprotected, unprotected sex, and we knew we were going to have a baby from it, we just weren’t saying “okay, this day we’re going to make the child and she will be born this day.” Right, but real quick… Officer: We, I, you, we have to step out real quick. Can we get you a water or anything? Tatiana: Well we’re just going to just slide over real quick and talk to Seth and just confirm some of the stuff. I’m sure you guys, he’s probably, he’s sitting on ice right now probably wondering what in the world’s going on. So do you need to use a restroom as well? Um, I suppose I should. It’s been quite… happy that I’m with you now. Me too.

Seth and Tatiana Alone in Interrogation Room

Tatiana: Did you talk to your parents at all while you were waiting? Seth: I wasn’t allowed to call… yeah we’re ’cause we’re such bad parents not even allowed to talk to… he took so long asking me all about the kids, all three of their birth weight, height and eating habits and developmental skills and, and then I think that was a distraction ’cause right after that I was just like, “why did it take you so long to call?” I just kept wrestling with that. Tatiana: What did you answer to, to, to call the police after oh finding out? I told you like six times I was waiting for the lawyer to be there ’cause we knew this would happen. That’s so I told them we were waiting for… I didn’t say your parents, but I said lawyers and we were just… Seth: What did you do while you were waiting? I called off work, I swept, and I sat and cried. Like listen to baby… their job is to fill cells. It’s their job, so they can fill two cells right now. Tatiana: Asking me if they were angry… like it sounded like they were trying I don’t know if this is a movie set, but like separate… Seth: Of course that’s what they’re doing. Trying to drive a wedge in between, and then hope somebody accuses the other one. That’s why they came at you first ’cause they’re ’cause they know, they can tell by looking at me yeah, they’re going to do shit to me. So I’m making you break down and accuse me, is who they’re looking for. Don’t even know what’s going to happen. We go home and we get really baked and we I really like to not talk about it at all anymore today. Okay, this is so terrible, so terrible, can’t do this again. We at least got to take her, we got, there’s problems we got to take them to the doctor at least to see, okay. Yep, I’m sorry, should have checked on her. Well that they, they’re trying to make you seem a lot more like a prisoner than you really are right now. You hear, you’re here under your own volition. We’re not in a locked room. Yeah, it’s really not much they can do if we wanted to walk out right now. We’re doing this as a show and not even for them but for probably when we have to go up in front of a judge. All they want, they want a charge, they want somebody, there’s got to be money involved, there’s got to be a financial transaction somehow, it’s like you can’t, you can’t just bury a dead body. You gotta, you gotta pay somebody. You just got to. Tatiana: That was the worst case they’ve ever seen. They were making me feel, and they were like, “We know, I’m not your ME, we know you’re a good person, but this is the worst case we’ve ever seen.” Like… Seth: What are you doing here guy? I don’t know what to tell you, you know. Kid wasn’t pumped full of growth hormones and steroids… me I’m sorry, you know you think I’m happy about it? Yeah, they were kind of like pushing me about the whole doctor thing. I was like, you know what the number one leading cause of death in this country is? ‘Cause they weren’t in there with me for about like 10 minutes, was it? They were trying to squeeze you and get you to say something, that I did something. Well, it didn’t work. It’s probably they in here so long. You treat this like a murder case man. Is that an accident? I don’t know that what’s putting somebody in jail going to do? Right, it’s going to fill a cell, that’s what they’re here today for. Profit. For-profit corporations, dude. Put me on trial, I’ll put the whole system on, I’ll put the whole system on trial, put me on trial. They’re just trying to get somebody to confess to a crime. That’s all they’re trying to do. They don’t care if they lie, they don’t care how they make it, they don’t care. So you just don’t take it personally. You just, yep, whatever I don’t care what you mean… still close together, that was nice. Probably let’s to see what we say to each other, probably. I don’t care, they want… the thing is they want something so bad, but they don’t have anything. They, they, you know, they could get negligent, they probably get negligent at best, child endangerment at best, which, have fun. I’m not, I’m not worried about that. I’m not worried to go, going to court about that with my mom, okay? I’m not, I don’t want to, but I’m also not, it doesn’t, it’s not something that, that’s some sort of “oh goodness.” I don’t want to say, do I think that God told you… oh no, if God told you to, never would I let you do it, that would never happen. Why would you even ask me that? It’s like just saying I’m a believer, so a believer too, it’s like, that’s not a no… next, yeah they tried, they tried to wrestle with me too. Super… this, they’re looking for somebody to say something crazy. They’re looking for the crazy, they’re looking for the… they’re looking for their way in.

Seth’s Facebook Video

Now let’s hear from Seth. Two months before Mary died, this is a video he posted on Facebook, May 29th, 2018. While he was recording this video, Mary was probably suffering miserably alone in her crib. The hypocrisy in this video is mind-blowing. He is standing on some moral soapbox preaching about God’s creation, while slowly and painfully sending his infant daughter to her demise. The original video was about 19 minutes long, this is a shortened version of it. So let’s watch this and then go over some of the comments. So stay tuned, the comments never disappoint.

Seth (in video): Good evening, this is Seth Welch, formerly of Black Acre Farm Products, now of Stewards of Creation Farm. Uh, well okay, just to dive right into it uh, as I preface most of my videos with, this is not something you need to uh watch, it’s something you can listen to. Um, it’s a bit of a story, there’s a bit of some explanation involved. Why am I making this video? Well here’s the thing, 5 years ago my wife and I started a farm produce business and we had no idea where it was going to go or where it was going to take off. Well, there I go, I didn’t even start at the beginning of the story. Six years ago my wife and I got this property. Um, we moved here… um, I didn’t move here to start a produce business. I moved here to honestly, to seek truth and to learn about life from the ground up, at least that, that was my notion of it. I also was in a place as a young man where I was um, I was very politically afraid. And so yes, I also got this farm as sort of a self-sufficiency type property, um, a prepper kind of arrangement. And I lived that way for a, for a year or two, and then time went on and we really had to start focusing on making money. And so that is what we did, and that is where most people know us from, is uh, from our sales of what we wanted to be high-quality produce um, to feed our community.

Well my wife and I were two very broken people when we came here, and we needed a lot of fixing. Um, I have no plans for this video, I’m just kind of speaking as I am led to speak, and uh, letting it go from there. But my wife and I were very broken people and um, so a… as people seeking truth, seeking righteousness, we’ve had a lot of work to do on ourselves. And that’s going to tie in later into, into why things are changing and why things got the way they did last year and this, that, and the other. So I’m making this, the purpose of me making this video is that we had a lot of loyal customers, we had a lot of supporters, and last year we were really pushing it, really getting big, really taking the big steps. And things kind of came crashing down around our ears, to be quite frank with you. Um, while sales started very well through the month of June, by July things dropped off and kept dropping off. Quite frankly right off of a cliff. Um, one of our sales points, one of our uh, one of our points of sales went down 97% last year with many at 90. Uh, I’ll just give you some straight numbers: we would often go to the Fulton Street Farmers Market two years ago, and on a Tuesday we could expect to make anywhere between um 400 to you know $700. Last year Tatiana was happy if she came home with 50. That’s how bad sales got.

So after last year with the sales being what they were, um, basically in August I gave up. I couldn’t do it anymore. It wasn’t all the work I was doing I wasn’t getting paid for… and I just had enough of sacrificing and risking so much for something unpromised. And it was just, I was running a business according to the ways of the world. And so I you know, I had to choose my master. Was I going to serve the world, was I going to serve the world of money, or was I going to serve God? And I, I know that’s somewhat of a foreign concept and a foreign teaching in our culture, but it’s straight out, it’s red letters, it’s what Jesus said, and it was an enigma to me for a long time until I really began to study and learn and meditate on the scriptures that, that’s not serving God to destroy the Earth. In the Book of Revelation it says in the end, God will destroy the destroyers of the Earth because why do people destroy the Earth? Out of greed, and they become murderers of their fellow man because they deny the essence of life, the requirements of physical life to their neighbor because they exploited the land for greed. So I gave up, and I just, I simply gave up. And I got myself a simple job and I began pursuing the way, the truth, and the life, and just conforming myself and my mind, my methodologies of thought, to conform with the will of God.

The utter hypocrisy. Wow, unbelievable. Now let’s look at some of the comments from the Facebook page. This one here: “give back to the earth instead of destroying it. Why didn’t you care this much for your poor starving baby?” Your… and you can read that… “looks like you’ve never went a day without food, evil monsters.” Have to say I agree with this one. This next comment here just gets right to the point: “So right about this time your baby was only half and then passed away.” So I absolutely agree with this one too, and it’s absolutely haunting to think, I just can’t help thinking where little Mary was while he was taking the time to spew this hypocrisy on this video. And here’s another good one: “look at all that delicious food you produced. Too bad your child never saw a bite of it.” This comment here: “guess you was working so hard you forgot you had a kid to feed, monsters.” And last but not least, these two comments also get right to the point and speak for themselves: “And less than 3 months later they land in jail. Guess that new endeavor included baby…” and then… So again, the comments never disappoint. I’m actually glad I was able to find this video. When videos like this are available from perpetrators, it’s nice to hear what they have to say or how they were acting, behaving before the crime was committed. And being that we know the backstory of what was going on with Mary at this time, this video is very very haunting and quite enraging for that matter, if you take into context what he was talking about. Again, it was, it’s so hypocritical.

The Trial and Aftermath

In January of 2020, Seth’s trial began. The case was given to the jury on January 27th. They deliberated only an hour and 20 minutes before delivering a guilty verdict. Seth was ultimately sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole for his role in Mary’s death.

Tatiana initially accepted a plea deal where she would have served a minimum of 25 years in prison for pleading no contest to second degree, but her own ego, coupled with an unyielding belief in her ability to manipulate, led her to withdraw her plea. She gambled everything on a jury trial, convinced she could portray herself as the victim. In the courtroom, Tatiana shed a flood of crocodile tears, painting a haunting picture of Seth as a controlling monster who had left her paralyzed with fear, unable to protect Mary. Yet her theatrical performance clashed violently with her previous police interviews, where none of these claims had surfaced, and no evidence supported her story.

Now it could have been true that Seth was a controlling maniac that had Tatiana living in fear. If that truly was the case, how on Earth could her fear of her own safety trump the safety of her baby? Where was her maternal instinct to protect her child at all costs? And even more importantly, how could she go along with the neglect of little Mary, denying her nutrition and love, watching her slowly and painfully wasting away alone in her rotting crib? Mary’s suffering went on for months and months. It never occurred to Tatiana to ask for help from someone, anyone. Or was she too concerned with self-preservation, needing to keep this dirty secret to prevent herself from being held accountable for the horrific suffering they were inflicting on Mary? Maternal instinct and true selfless love for your child would lead you to find a way to protect your child, or at least try to.

The jury agreed. They saw right through her charade, leading them to deliver a guilty verdict, convicting her of first-degree murder. On October of 2021, Tatiana was ultimately sentenced to the same fate as Seth: life in prison without the possibility of parole.

As if all of this wasn’t bad enough, Tatiana was pregnant with her and Seth’s fourth child when she was arrested. She gave birth in January of 2019 to a boy who was taken into the system. Their other two children met the same fate. These poor babies lost both parents and a sister in the most horrendous way, and I pray they are in the hands of good people who will show them love and foster their healing.

So what went so wrong behind closed doors with Seth and Tatiana that led to the unimaginable suffering of and ultimate demise of their innocent and vulnerable infant daughter? Most likely no one will ever know for sure, but I personally believe there are many layers in this tragic case.

Throughout history, individuals with inflated egos and narcissistic tendencies have often used religion as a shield to deflect criticism and justify their behavior, along with giving them a sense of power and control. These individuals manipulate religious texts, selectively interpreting passages to serve their own interests. By doing so, they exploit the inherent trust and reverence people have for these sacred texts, twisting their meanings to rationalize acts that are fundamentally contrary to the core teachings of love, compassion, and empathy. The consequences of such actions can be devastating, leaving a trail of destruction that impacts both individuals and communities.

Those who claim to be moral and righteous, yet cloak their dark intentions and religious rhetoric, often betray the very essence of the faith they profess to uphold. The terrifying reality is that those who present themselves as upstanding and moral may, in fact, harbor some of the darkest intentions. In my opinion, Seth also appeared to harbor grandiose notions of ownership over his family, treating them as mere objects rather than individuals deserving of genuine love and sacrifice. This perspective, coupled with his anger over the farm’s failures, led to deep-seated frustration with himself for seeming unable to adequately provide for his family.

When Tatiana had to return to work, she was no longer available to tend to the farm as she once had, leaving Seth overwhelmed with farm duties and the care of three young children, one of whom was an infant. His pride prevented him from acknowledging his struggles or seeking help. Consequently, everything deteriorated and festered until both Seth and Tatiana directed their frustrations towards their most innocent and vulnerable child.

The deplorable condition of their home, infested with bugs and rats and filth, mirrored the turmoil within their minds and hearts. Seth seemed to lack genuine affection for anyone other than himself. Although Tatiana might have shared similar tendencies, she concealed them more effectively. Like a skilled actress, she managed to project an image of humility and kindness to the outside world, all while being complicit in the horrors inflicted upon little Mary.

In this case, the justice system delivered as much justice as possible, yet the lasting impact on the children is profound. Although they are hopefully safe now, they will forever bear the burden of their parents’ cruelty. In this sense, true justice will never be served.