College Teen Smiles in Court, Swears She Couldn’t Tell Right From Wrong — Then the Phone Call Plays
She sits in a Summit County courtroom, smiling, thinking she will walk free. Cydney Powell had convinced herself the jury would believe her. Her defense was simple. She was too mentally ill to know what she was doing. That when the moment came, her mind had fractured so completely she couldn’t tell right from wrong.
Her lawyers would argue she was sick, not guilty. And for a while, it seemed to be working. Then the prosecution stepped in with the witnesses, autopsy reports, and a phone call that unraveled everything her defense had built. Just like that, the story she had been telling for months began to collapse in real time. This is the chilling case of a university freshman who turned her family home into a crime scene.
Every detail you’re about to see has been verified through court records, trial testimony, and footage recorded the day it happened. If you’ve never heard this story before, prepare yourself because what happened inside that house in Akran, Ohio, will challenge everything you think you know about love, secrets, and what someone will destroy to keep one buried.
broken the back window. She’s on the ground. WHERE’S YOUR MOM AT? OKAY. The back WINDOW IS BROKEN IN. SO, YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE to inside there. So, she I don’t know. She was there in the house. Okay. My doctor calls me back and said, “Oh, mom’s on the phone with the with uh mom.” I said, “Well, cops are on the way.
” And she went, “There’s been a breakin and there’s” and she just started going off. She said, “What?” She said that was there’s been somebody broke into the house. There’s blood everywhere. On the morning of March 3rd, 2020, Steve Powell was at work at a steel treating company in Akran, Ohio. He tried to pay Sydney’s tuition, but the payment was declined, and he had been logged out of the parent portal.
Curious and concerned, he called the university to confirm what was going on and was told Sydney was no longer enrolled. Surprised by this new information, Steve opened his Life 360 family tracking app, which he used to stay connected with Sydney while she was away at school. The app showed Sydney’s location, and it was not at school, but rather at their home in Akran.
Steve immediately drove home from work and found Sydney there. Unknown to him, she already had her story well scripted. Steve informed her of what the university had said. Sydney explained it away. She said there had been a mixup. She was still attending classes with her friend Lauren and still submitting papers to her lecturers.
Steve had no reason to doubt his sweet little girl. However, he felt the situation would be better handled by his wife Brenda. He called her and explained everything he had found. Then left for work. What Steve did not know was that the call would change their lives forever. Brenda Powell was 50 years old and lived in Akran, Ohio, a working-class city in Summit County.
She’d spent nearly three decades building a career at the Akran Children’s Hospital, where she worked as a child life specialist in the Hematology Oncology Unit, dedicated to helping seriously ill children and their families cope with the emotional toll of a hospital stay. She even founded the hospital’s teen oncology program. She showed up for children in the worst moments of their lives.
People who knew them said Brenda was more than just Sydney’s mother. She was her best friend. The bond between Sydney and Brenda is not a small detail in this story. It is the center of it. On her way home, Brenda called the university. She left messages for associate dean Michelle Gaffne and dean of students John Frasier trying to figure out what was going on with Sydney.
When she got there, Sydney was home. Brenda tried to calm her down, told her everything would be okay. At 12:36 p.m., Dean Frasier called Brenda back. Michelle Gaffne was on the line, too. He’d barely said his name when they heard it. A loud, heavy thud, then another, and another six times total. then silence.
What came next would destroy Cydney’s entire defense because what she did in those moments didn’t look like confusion. It looked like something else entirely. While Brenda was still on the call with Dean Frasier, Sydney walked into the kitchen. She came back with a cast iron skillet and swung it at Brenda’s head. Then she grabbed a knife and stabbed her over and over from the waist up.
Brenda tried to fight back. At least 32 stab wounds, multiple blows to the neck. What Sydney didn’t know was that Dean Frasier and associate Dean Gaffne were still on the line. They’d heard everything. Confused and alarmed, they called back once, twice, no answer. On the third try, someone picked up, but it wasn’t Brenda.
It was Sydney on the line, trying to pretend she was Brenda, but the university representatives knew Sydney’s voice well enough to recognize her immediately. When they asked, “Sydney, is this you?” the phone went dead. Gaffne and Frasier contacted law enforcement and requested a welfare check at the Powell home. The dispatch call went through to officer Kenneth Dyes, who coincidentally was Steve Powell’s friend.
He quickly recognized the address and called Steve, informing him that there was an emergency at his house. Steve immediately called Sydney to let her know that the police were on their way. The officers arrived at the Powell home and found Sydney in a visibly unstable state. for the in front of 50 cutter. I can hear her screaming in there.
Front door is locked. Hacker police. Police. Where’s your mom at? Okay. Stay right here. NO. NO, THERE’S THERE’S SO MUCH BLOOD. NO, PLEASE. MOR. NO. STOP. STOP. We got to figure out what’s going on. Can you sit down? Can you sit down? Car 9. Get that 32 rolling here quick. We got a female down.
Blood all over the place. Started some more years. Got a crime scene. Take her outside. Police found Brenda in a pool of blood. A cast iron skillet and a knife lay nearby. She was still alive, but in serious condition. Come on. Come on. Is she GOING TO BE OKAY? COME ON. Come on. Come on. You just need to cooperate with me.
All right. Hello, my dad. Huh? HELLO, MY DAD. WHAT HAPPENED? What’s going on? What’s going on? We heard a bang. We heard a bang and she told me to get out and then I heard screaming. So I came back and she was on the ground. Okay. You heard a bang back. There was a big broken. Okay. What is your name? Sydney.
Are you cut? I don’t think so. Yeah, you’re cut somewhere. I don’t think so. Yeah, your hand. No, I was helping her. I grabbed her. All right, stop. I’ll tell you what. Can you sit on the ground here real quick? Tuna, dispatch. Come on. Come on. Just at the ground. Yeah, you’re fine. Right there.
No, you’re fine. Right there. Please pick a ramp. This is minor. They might have a more I don’t know. CHECK THAT VICTIM IN THERE. SHE’S GOT CUTS ON HER HANDS. I don’t know what they have in there, but there’s a female down in there. Yeah. One of the officers on the scene described Sydney’s behavior as very disturbing.
Steve was informed by his friend, Officer Kenneth Dyes, that Brenda was still alive and had been rushed to the hospital. Steve arrived at his home to find police officers everywhere and he appeared to be in serious emotional distress. What’s going on? I don’t know. We just got Dad. I’m the dad. Sydney. I don’t know. I don’t know.
What? What the hell? Where’s my wife? THE WINDOWS BROKEN. DAD, WHERE? THE BACK WINDOW IS BROKEN IN. SO, YOU HAVE THE inside there. So, SHE I DON’T KNOW. SHE was check lady in the house. Okay. She’s got minor cuts. Steve would later go down to the police station to speak with investigators about the incident at his house.
They needed to clarify exactly what had just taken place. I call Sydney back. Rings rings and rings. No answer. I call Brendon back. Ring ring ring. No answer. I’m pacing around. I call Jeep back and as I’m on the phone with him telling him there’s no answer. My doctor calls me back and said, “Oh, mom’s on the phone with the with uh Mount Union Mun.
” I said, “Well, cops are on the way.” and she went, “There’s been a breakin and there’s” and she just started running off. She said, “What?” She said, “That was there’s been somebody broke into the house. There’s blood everywhere.” While still at the station, giving the police officers an account of what had happened.
Steve receives shocking news. Really bad news. Your wife passed away. The look on Steve’s face was something words can’t capture. Total shock. Total despair. The kind of thing you never want to see on another person’s face. One of the worst things anyone could ever have to say, let alone to their own child.
The physical evidence inside the house didn’t match Sydney’s story. Bloody footprints led straight to her. The open window and the door left a jar staged to look like someone broke in had both been opened from the inside. There was no forced entry, no sign of an intruder, no evidence of a third party anywhere in the home, just the remnants of a brutal close-range attack on a woman who never had the chance to call for help.
The prosecution needed the jury to understand something critical. This didn’t start on March 3rd. The machinery that led to this killing had been running for more than a year. Sydney was a bright student. She attended S. Vincent St. Mary High School in Akran, where she played soccer and a year of lacrosse and maintained a high GPA.
She was the kind of kid who earned her way into college on academic merit, winning a presidential scholarship that helped cover the cost of tuition and relieved some of the financial pressure on her parents. In the fall of 2018, Sydney enrolled at the University of Mount Union in Alliance, Ohio, about an hour from home. Her best friend from high school, Lauren Curry, moved to Mount Union with her, and they lived together on campus.
Lauren testified at trial that Sydney was social, charismatic, and bubbly. She described a girl who had no signs of anything wrong. Of course, it was a concern for the couple how a child this bright would get kicked out of college. What Sydney’s family did not know was that her time at Mount Union had not gone the way anyone hoped.
Sydney’s grades had seriously slipped while in the university. She had failed three out of four classes. After her first year, Sydney had been placed on academic probation. When the university ran the numbers in the fall semester of 2019, it was clear that Sydney could no longer remain enrolled. She was suspended for poor academic performance and kept it all to herself.
Her parents never received any communication from the university about the disciplinary action. nothing about Sydney being suspended or expelled. Once you turn 18, schools treat you like an adult, no matter who’s paying the tuition. Sydney kept up the performance. She lived in her dorm room. She left at the times she would have left for class.
She attended some sorority events. When friends noticed her name tag had disappeared from outside her door, she told them there was some confusion with the university. She showed up on campus even after she had no reason to be there. She found ways to get through locked building doors. She attended classes she was no longer registered for.
Her friends and roommates noticed something was wrong. Her close friend noticed the inconsistency in her stories and confronted her, but she responded that she was fine. Tell us about uh the the time you spent together in Mount Union. You said that she she really wasn’t uh couldn’t find something that she was interested in. Um like I think her most interest I think was psychology, like learning about that stuff.
But other than just like hanging out with her friends, like educational wise, it was kind of hard for her, I think. Did she ever talk to you about her classes and how that’s going or did you share that with each other? Yeah, I mean, I think we talked about classes a lot cuz we did homework together a lot.
Um, I think she was like, like I said, she I think she struggled in our classes. I don’t think her grades were the best, but she didn’t really tell me that cuz um I wasn’t really struggling. But I think you could tell kind of, especially at the end, that she just wasn’t like doing her best in like in high school. A week before March 3rd, 2020, the university found out she’d been lying.
They told Sydney she had to leave her dorm. With nowhere to go and no one she was willing to tell, she started paying cash for hotel rooms, burning through whatever money she had left. Her parents could track her location through Life 360, but the app couldn’t tell them what was actually happening.
Brenda had almost figured it out. On February 25th, almost a week before she died, she texted Sydney, “Why do I always feel like you’re scamming me? Just remember, you need to keep the grades to keep your scholarship.” Sydney wrote back, “My grades are good. Thank you very much.” Keep that text message in mind.
It would become a vital piece of evidence. These patterns would later spark intense debate between medical experts and lawyers. a critical question for the jury to weigh. The defense argued this was mental illness common in late teens. The prosecution called it a calculated plan that failed. Their position was clear.
A woman who can sustain months of deception at that level. Who can maintain separate realities for different people. Who can walk into university buildings she’s banned from. Who can answer direct questions from school staff and family without flinching. Hasn’t lost her grip on reality. She understands exactly what reality demands of her and is fighting every day to keep it from catching up.
March 3rd, 2020 exposed every secret Sydney had buried. 24 hours after Brenda’s death, Sydney was arrested and charged with murder. Her body still carried marks from the struggle. Detectives had enough to know that the iron skillet and the knife were used by Sydney and not a third party as she had intended it to look.
Steve had already warned Cydney the police were coming. That gave her time to set up a fake break-in, make it look like someone else attacked Brenda. After her arrest, Cydney Powell was placed in a psychiatric facility. While she was there, doctors diagnosed her with schizophrenia. She was stabilized on antiscychotic medications, treated, and eventually deemed competent to stand trial.
Her father, who had testified that Sydney had never shown violence before in her life, that the mother-daughter bond was unbreakable, and that he believed his daughter was sick, asked prosecutors not to take the case to trial. So did Brenda’s own mother. The family did not want a prosecution. The law enforcement agents were hellbent on seeing this to trial.
Due to CO related court delays, the trial did not begin until September 7th, 2023, more than 3 years after the killing. The trial began in Summit County Common Police Court before Judge Kelly Mclofflin. Sydney was 23 now, being tried for a crime that happened when she was 19. The actual core of this case comes down to one simple question, whether or not the defendant, Miss Sydney Pal, was suffering from a severe mental disease.
and because of that severe mental disease could not understand the wrongfulness of her actions when she took the life of her mother Brenda P. Now I I promise you I don’t mean to diminish or simplify the questions that are going to be presented to you but you’re quickly going to learn this is not a case about who did it.
This is not a case about how it was done. This case will come down to this sole question. Whether or not Miss Pal at the time at the time of the murder was suffering from a severe mental disease which prevented her from knowing the wrongfulness of those actions. And although that sounds like a direct question, I want to stress to each of you it’s not as simple as reading a medical report.
It’s not as simple as listening to testimony from doctors. You are going to have to listen to all the evidence. You’re going to have to weigh that evidence. And the state believes that when you hear that evidence, apply it to your role as a juror, you’re going to be able to recognize that Miss Sydney Pal is responsible for the murder of her mother, Brenda, and she was not suffering from a severe mental illness or disease that prevented her from knowing the wrongfulness of what she did. The defense gave its opening
statement and presented its case to the jurors. I think what you’re going to experience is this. I think about 90% of the state’s case, their evidence, and their witnesses is going to be focused on what happened. What happened on March 3rd, 2020 inside the scutter h home of the pals? And I think you’re also going to see that 90% of the defense case is going to be focused on what Mr.
Malise I think has correctly identified as the sole core question in this case and that is why why did this happen? What happened is not in dispute. Cydney Powell caused the injuries that led to her mother’s death. Why is the question? The trial unfolded like most. Both sides called witnesses to testify, giving the jury context to help them understand what happened.
Steve Powell took the stand. He testified about whether Sydney had shown any signs of struggle before March 3rd, 2020. Before March 3rd, did you have any information that something might be going on with Sydney at and Mount Union? The only thing that I knew is when I tried to sign on to the uh like their whatever app that they have on the website, it kept kicking me out.
The the the app that Mount Union had. Yeah, they like a like a portal, I think it’s called. A portal. Okay. And you would try to sign into that portal and it wouldn’t let you in. Correct. He recalled that he reported the issue of his inability to access the portal to Sydney, but she told a different story.
When you had difficulty logging onto that portal, what did you do? I asked Sydney what was going on about it. Okay. And what did she say? There was a mistake with Mount Union. Okay. And she’d look into it. Okay. And and and at that point, you had no reason not to trust what she’s telling you.
Correct. And and to be fair, you would always found her trustworthy. Yes. Fair to say? Fair. Steve informed the court that he finally caught wind of the issue that Sydney was facing when the school called on the 3rd of March. I believe Mount Union called me. I they called me and the conversation was that Sydney wasn’t enrolled anymore and then I asked for how long and they said you have to ask her.
Okay. And and I’m sure that came as a shock to you. Yes. Now, at at some point that morning, and I think we may have already heard this, I don’t know if we have, but you actually went home and and spoke to Sydney. Is that right? Yes. Okay. What prompted you to go home to to leave work and go home? Cuz I saw on the app she was home, which I thought was a little bit early.
Okay. 360 life. The 360 app showed that she was home. Yes. The testimony of Steve showed that even when Sydney was caught red-handed, she still tried to lie her way out of it. This particular issue of dishonesty raised serious issues as to whether Sydney truly suffered from schizophrenia or was just a pathetic liar.
Can you tell the jury what did she tell you about what was going on? What I understood is she was still enrolled and it’s only been it was only a couple weeks that she was still going to some classes and still doing her homework on the side. Okay. So, she told you she was essentially still enrolled, but just having some some trouble.
I don’t know if she used the word trouble, but And again, I don’t want to put words in your mouth. You tell me. What What did she say? She was again, I don’t remember the details, but I remember she said she was still going to some of her classes with her friend Lauren. Okay. When when she told you this, what was your response to her? that we would work it out.
Okay. Do you remember telling her and I know you had a conversation with the police, too. Do you remember telling her that, you know, you can’t run away from your problems, you have to face them? I said we’d go through get through through this semester and if you needed to take the summer off or go to, we would work through it.
I remember she said, you know, all her friends have theirit together and she doesn’t and I told her, “No, that’s not the that’s not true.” Do you remember telling her, you know, let’s call the school back, get reinstated? Something along those lines? I think I said, “Let’s call your mother.” Okay.
And And why did you say that? Brenda was better at things like that than me. Okay. And do you mean by dealing with Sydney or the college or both? Probably both. Did do you call Brenda then? Yes. And did you ask her, hey, you know, there’s something going on with Sydney and at the college? Did you ask her to come home? She said she would come home.
She said she’s going to talk to Jill and she’ll come home. Did you stay at home? I’m sorry. Do you need a minute? No, go ahead. Take your time, sir. Okay. Did you stay at home until Brenda got there or did you leave before she got home? I left before she got there. So you you went back you went back to work and knowing that Brenda was on her way home.
Yes. Associate Dean Gaffne took the stand to testify as to what had transpired during the phone call between her, Dean Fraser, and Brenda Powell. What did you tell Brenda at that time? So, uh, Dean Frasier was, um, was speaking and and simply said, um, Brenda, this is Dean Frasier. I’m sitting here with Michelle Gaffne, our associate dean of students.
We’re returning your call. And that’s about as far as as we got. Did Brenda respond to to that introduction at all? Yeah. What did she say? I think I think he asked, “Is this Brenda Powell?” Oh, okay. And she said, “Yes.” And he and then he identified himself. Okay.
And Miss Gaffffne, what happened next? There was a very large or a very loud sort of thud sound like a pound a pounding or a thud. Um accompanied by a by a pretty loud scream. Um and um the scream might have actually been first and then the thud. Okay. As I think about it. And then there was sort of a an expulsion. The other sound that I heard at that same time or or right after was sort of an expulsion of air like the air was knocked out of somebody. Okay.
Um I’d always heard that expression of the air being knocked, you know, having the wind knocked out of you, but I didn’t. That’s actually what it sounded like. Um and then several more repeated thuds. I don’t I don’t know how to describe the sound. No. And that’s okay. And you could you and Mr.
Frasier could hear this from the other end of the phone. From the other It was on speaker phone, right? Did you hear any communication during these thuds? Just the screaming. And so we decided to keep while we were waiting for the address to keep calling. We called the number back. Brenda’s number. Brenda’s number that she had left.
And and we called twice and there was no it rang and rang and rang and no answer. When and when it went to voicemail, we hung up and we called again. And then on the third time and I had just gotten the address as the phone was answered. Okay. On the third on the third try to the number.
And um Dean Frasier said something along the lines, “Brenda, is is that you? Are you there?” And the voice on the other end and said, “Yes, this is Brenda.” Um, yeah. Yes, this is Brenda. Now, Miss Gaffne, did you recognize that voice on the line? Yeah. Okay. Was that Brenda Pel? That is not Brenda. Who did you recognize that voice? I I was sure it was Sydney.
both Dean Frasier and I looked at each other and and and and sort of shook our heads at each other and said, “That’s not that’s not Brenda.” Um, and he then said, “I I don’t Sydney, I think this is you. This is not Brenda.” And what happened next? The the phone went dead. The major issue in the trial came along when the defense and prosecution examined their expert witnesses.
The defense called three expert witnesses, Dr. James Rearen, Dr. Dr. Robin Belchure Tim and Dr. Scott Swale each had evaluated Sydney independently. Together, according to the defense, they had sat with her for 30 hours and administered 25 separate diagnostic tests. Each reached the same conclusion that on March 3rd, 2020, Cydney Powell was in an acute psychotic state, suffering from schizoeffective disorder, and was unable to appreciate the wrongfulness of what she was doing.
And Dr. Rearen, um, what what is your occupation? What do you do? I’m a psychologist. I’ve been licensed since 1976. I’ve been in practice as a licensed psychologist since 1977. In Sydney’s case, it’s my opinion that uh her conditions were likely a combination of biological and situational.
And the the onset, like I said, probably we have evidence of precursors back to probably year several years before um the events of 3320. So, what were those precursors? Can you tell the jury what do you recall identifying as some potential precursors or symptoms of schizophrenia well before March 3rd of 2020? the uh some of the interviews that I did like with several of her friends or with her English teacher uh Katherine Milligan indicated that she had not frequently but at times pretty significantly demonstrated precursors like panic
attack, panic symptoms, at times withdrawal but again when she was in high school if you are looking at her and Looking at the situation on the outside, everything looks like it’s fine. She’s an honor student. She’s a scholar athlete, not getting into a lot of trouble. There’s no behavioral issues. She’s got a good relationship with friends.
She’s got a good relationship with family and parents. some of her friends and and the teacher, Katherine Milligan, reported um episodes where she would like overreact to um a situation, you know, have a panic attack in relation to a chemistry presentation, you know, ultimately nailed. Dr. Rearen testified that Sydney had been deteriorating for months before the killing, that her lies to her parents were not calculated deception, but an alternate reality she had built because her failure was psychologically impossible for her to accept. He argued
she was living in a state where the falsehood felt more real to her than the facts. Dr. Swale had diagnosed her with schizopeeffective disorder bipolar type and said she experienced active schizophrenic symptoms until May 2020 followed by 4 months of suicidal ideiation afterward. He administered tests specifically to rule out malingering, the faking of symptoms, and said she was not faking. Dr.
Tim described Sydney’s case as a typical because the typical risk factors for violence, a history of aggression, extreme childhood trauma, substance abuse were entirely absent. She had none of them. Remember that in the course of the video, we referred to the relationship between Sydney and Brenda. Here’s why it became important. Dr.
James Rearen concluded that it was impossible for Sydney to have killed Brenda in a lucid state of mind given that they both were so close. They considered themselves as friends. It was also on this reason he reached his conclusion that Sydney was mentally ill at the time of the offense. The prosecution called one expert witness, Dr. Sylvia Oradovich.
She met with Sydney Powell for 2 hours and concluded that Sydney was not insane at the time of the murder. In her opinion, Sydney showed borderline personality traits and an unspecified anxiety disorder, but did not meet the legal threshold for severe mental illness that would render her legally insane. Dr.
Oradovich also described her during evaluation as less than honest and forthcoming. She went further, directly challenging the defense experts, calling their methods fundamentally flawed. She argued that their tests relied heavily on self-reporting and were therefore unreliable for assessing sanity years after the crime.
According to her, the most reliable evidence comes from what a person said and experienced at the time of the incident, not evaluations conducted long after the fact. But here is what matters. None of that critique appeared in Dr. Oradovich’s written report. The defense had received it ahead of trial and prepared their entire case around what was inside it.
The methodological attacks were new, introduced for the first time on the stand, leaving the defense with no time to respond. Defense attorney Don Malleric immediately stood and asked the judge to allow him to recall one of the expert witnesses to rebut Dr. Oradovich’s testimony, but his motion was denied.
With that, both the prosecution and defense rested their cases, and the court adjourned to await the jury’s verdict. On September 20th, 2023, the jury finally reached a decision. On count one, ma’am, I sentence you to an indefinite sentence of 15 years to life in the Ohio Department of Corrections. On count four of the indictment, I sentence you to three years in the Ohio Department of Corrections.
Those two sentences to be run concurrent with and not consecutive to each other. Remember the phone call? The one where Sydney picked up the line and said in a calm voice, “Yes, this is Brenda.” In the minutes after killing her mother, that moment lived with the jury through 9 hours of deliberation. It was the prosecution’s most powerful piece, not because it proved planning, because it proved awareness.
In an interview with Sydney’s lawyer, he looked dissatisfied with the judgment. It’s been tough. You know, um Sydney reminds me a lot of my daughter. And throughout this trial, I’ve tried to ask, you know, what would Brenda do? And I asked that question before I started my closing argument. And what came back to me was make sure that Sydney knows I love her.
Sydney’s legal team immediately appealed the conviction. The appeal rested on one argument. When the state’s expert challenged the defense’s psychiatric evidence, the defense had an absolute right to call a rebuttal witness. They argued the trial court took that right away.
In December 2024, the 9th District Court of Appeals sided with Sydney. The three judge panel ruled the trial court made a reversible error. Once the state brought its own expert to attack the insanity defense, Sydney had to be allowed to respond, denying that violated her right to a fair trial. The conviction was overturned. He was confident the justice system would get it right.
The Summit County Prosecutor’s Office didn’t accept it quietly. In February 2025, they appealed to the Ohio Supreme Court. Their argument was blunt. The appellet ruling broke over a century of legal precedent and could rewrite how trials work across Ohio. No criminal defendant, they said, has an unconditional right to present additional evidence.
The appeals court got the law wrong. As of now, the Ohio Supreme Court has accepted the case and heard oral arguments. Sydney is serving her 15 years to life sentence at the Ohio Reformatory for Women in Mary’sville. The court hasn’t issued a verdict
